Why was shane "old" when he fought Floyd but Bhop was "timeless" when beating Pavlik?

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  1. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anyone care to explain this?

    Shane was coming off destroying margarito and everyone was amazed with his "youthful" display of boxing skill

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    Bhop looked like **** against calzaghe and every one was calling him old and sloppy and was going to get knocked the **** out against pavlik


    any takers?
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    just people being haters. he came off a career best victory prior to floyd. simple as.
     
  3. PH|LLA

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    BHop was old when he beat Pavlik IMO. And he was old when he lost to Calzaghe before he fought Pavlik.

    I remember when Cotto outboxed Mosley, most people said Mosley was old. That was 3 years before Mosley vs Mayweather and to top it off Mosley was inactive for 16 months before the Maywaether fight.
     
  4. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    B-Hop was old and clearly past it but still plenty good enough to beat Pavlik and has a style that will always give Kelly fits.

    Mosley is a fighter who depends on being faster than his opponents and his power, and can be outboxed. At 38, he had a chance, but just too old. Still Floyd gets some credit.

    And Calzaghe is better than Margarito so that comparison is not that fitting. Plus he has a style that combines speed and volume and gave B-Hop huge problems (and wouldn't have been an SD if B-Hop had fought clean).
     
  5. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    its just funny how subjective people choose to be in this sport....


    the truth is hidden sadly
     
  6. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    BHOP is a much better boxer than Shane. Calzaghe is a much better boxer than Margarito. Wait, forget my comment I'm not awake enough to even follow what you're asking.
     
  7. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    bhop is immortal like the people in highlander he never ages

    you have to cut his head off or slap him excessively to beat him

    there can only be one
     
  8. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    so...

    floyd wins = shane is old
    floyd loses = floyd gets exposed


    Just thinking about it.... I'm watching floyd vs shane right now and larry merchant keeps commenting on how "old" shane is but I don't think its fair really because he would be the first person saying how great shane is for beating floyd.... IF SHANE beat floyd....
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    shane is always there to be outboxed, it is no coincidence that the best boxers he has fought have all beaten him, (some believe odlh won their fight)

    with hindsight i am surprised that cotto beat him tho, at first i thought it was since cotto was too strong, but then he destroyed margo so i dunno.
     
  10. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Calzaghe slapped a tiny cut on BHOP's neck and ever since then, BHOP has had this scary safety pin where the scar is...makes him look like a bad mother****er.
     
  11. Brady

    Brady Active Member Full Member

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    Because people feel the need to find some alternative explanation for everything that happens. Sometimes people just get their asses beat. Ignore the haters. You are probably a hater too when it comes to other fighters who you don't root for. So you're no different from the people you are complaining about with this thread.
     
  12. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you can debate shane beat cotto tho....
     
  13. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bhop WAS old when he beat Pavlik... it's just that Pavlik isn't that good
     
  14. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    no .... my boxing iq is probably higher than 95% of this forum

    in terms of actual matchups
     
  15. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    It's like the Kelly fight. Kelly didn't have too much to gain. If he beat B-Hop most people would have said "oh B-Hop is old", if he loses then it proves he wasn't as good as many thought, if he loses in the way Kelly lost, he gets exposed.