Mayweather or Ali? Whos got the better offense??

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  1. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Pryor needed special help to beat a fight many consider inferior to Floyd. How is Floyd winning a 8-4 decision out of the question? Have you see Floyd at 140, his power, his speed his combinations? Easily the strongest class of his career.

    Love to see Pryor try and deal with that speed, defense and movemnt. :yep
     
  2. RING GENERAL

    RING GENERAL Ras Tafari Makonnen Full Member

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    I picked Ali.

    However.

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    Bodyshots:Floyd.Ali and Floyd both ignore the body,but,Floyd does throw body punches(right hand) and they almost always land when he does throw them.See the Gatti fight.

    In Floyd's prime he threw a lot of shots and so did Ali.I picked Ali,but Floyd isn't too shabby offensively either.And both men are equally charged with supposedly not having power.I don't believe it in either case.Two great "boxing" champions in my book.
     
  3. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Against Gatti??

    yeah... ****ing gomez looked like a god vs gatti too.

    Pryor was in a league above floyd.

    He stopped arguello the 2nd fight without "special sauce" faster and more dominantly.




    All you *****s make floyd look like **** when you make this unrealistic accusations.
    There is no evidence floyd would be able to beat guys like Leonard/Pryor/Whitaker/Arguello.... you just assume he would everytime someone brings it up.

    It hurts floyd's legacy when you give him too much credit all the time. Especially when the guy has been the recipient of a gift decision and has been known to pretty much cherry pick his fights based on competitiveness vs reward.
     
  4. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Logical fallacy. something you'd have learned if you attended school. :rofl
     
  5. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    both are good, but i had to pick floyd in this.

    because ali would hit but take some in return whereas floyd will control his offense and agression.

    it depends how you score it i guess

    muhamed ali p4p 2 of all time but he didnt have the greatest fundamentals. h was reflexes and great conditioning with the biggest heart and best chin

    like roy jones apart from chin part
     
  6. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Again, yet you wont debate me cuz yous a lil *****. I gave Castillo an extra point. Dont know why you are struggling. If Floyd won the round yet was deductd a point its a 9-9. I actually helped castillo.


    And still your bitchass cant debate me. You just whine and cry like a widdle girl, deflect the points and just make yourself look like a fool. I mean I can see having 20,000 posts if you actually tried to debate people, but you just appeal to the majority and deflect, its really sad homes.
     
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    TBomb 25 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yep even when Arguello was whacking Pryor with more whicked shots than Rocky 2,Floyd would have to that and hit as hard as Alexis,even if Floyd moved up to heavyweight he would hit as hard as Arguello and he was landing 6 punch combo's. Floyd hasnt thrown a 6 punch comb since he fought a going to jail not in the fight Chico,no chance agaisnt a animal like Pryor there are no guys like Pryor in boxing today not even close.:toney
     
  8. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    therefore lukeo goes with the most popular vote in everything he applies his mind to

    aint that what 5 year old sheep do

    baahh baah
     
  9. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Floyd was a huge combo puncher at 140. See his fights vs Gatti and Corley. Floyd doesnt have to hit as hard as Arguello to beat Pryor, he just has to outbox him which he would do impressively.

    As for Chico, Floyd barely threw combinations against Corrales, one shot at a time was able to put an undefeated p4p rated fighter on his ass multiple times lol.
     
  10. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    There is no logical fallacy in agreeing with a majority, genius.

    It just happens to be overwhelmingly obvious the only people who pick floyd in this situation are *****s.
    Like you.
     
  11. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    When has floyd thrown more than 800 punches in a fight?
     
  12. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    Of course. :lol: By majority opinion Ward was supposed to lose Kessler, Mayweather would never walk Mosley down, and Pacquiao should have been KO'd by Oscar. By majority opinion of course.


    I think Ali was better offensively to Floyd. He threw blistering combinations, had one punch KO power and had massive advantages over nearly every fighter in athleticism and power. Floyd on the other hand while amazing physically is much more technical, and Ali's strengths out shine Mayweathers technical ability.

    However the morons stating Floyd is 1 dimensional offensively, that he cant fight anyway he wants as he's proven time and time again is laughable. And the gulf offensively between the 2 ATG's is not far at all.
     
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    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    pryor is my fav fighter of and a cheat but at light welterweight floyd makes him look silly.

    he would just combo him all day and move on angles.

    people doubt floyd but floyd mentality is to do enough to win, and each fighter requires a different gameplan.

    on a fighter like pryor he would do what he needed to do

    /thread
     
  14. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    This is why *****s make everyone laugh...

    best offense? Floyd.
    Best defense? Floyd.
    Best counter punching? Floyd.

    He doesn't give **** up to be a defensive fighter, he just does it while being an offensive master!!!!

    Hail floyd, greatest fighter who ever lived!!!!

    Offensive master got out thrown and outlanded by jose luis castillo!!!!





    What a sad joke.
     
  15. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    You're appealing to the majority, which is a logical fallacy.

    And I didnt pick Floyd clown, its just hilarious how you boxing "fans" babble on and cant even defend an obvious pick correctly.