Top 10 British boxers ever P4P?

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  1. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Berg isnt rated high enougth
     
  2. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I like the way they put this gem in at the start:

    "There's not even room in our list for Sir Henry Cooper, who sent the great Muhammad Ali to the canvas." :shock:

    Really? No room for Big Enry? And were's that other fan favourite, Frank Bruno?
     
  3. sugarsean

    sugarsean Boxing Addict Full Member

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    1. Benny Lynch
    2. Randolph Turpin
    3. Lennox Lewis
    4. Bob Fitzsimmons
    5. Jack 'Kid' Berg
    6. Ken Buchanan
    7. Jimmy Wilde
    8. Ted 'Kid' Lewis
    9. John Conteh
    10. Howard Winstone

    my list is not based purely on achievement, if it was I'd have Fitz at number 1
     
  4. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    Bob Fitzsimmons has a good claim to be ranked above Sugar Ray Robbinson pound for pound.

    When will the British forum back him up?
     
  5. GazOC

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    Theres enough disent of whether he's even a Brit!! He does get his due here though, I think he made the Top 3 in the Brit HW/ LWH and Middle rankings.
     
  6. Strongback

    Strongback Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If you take Fitz as British I didn't see any better Brit. The man was naturally 160lbs and really only a middleweight but was still able to win the HW title. First ever to win in 3 weight divisions. P4P probably in with a shout as a Top 10 all time great.

    His problem, as is often discussed, is that he didn't really fit into any weight class which makes him similar to Sam Langford in that sense. I've read people say Fitz and Langford need a different list all of their own.

    The problem wih Fitz is that none of his actions lead us to believe he saw himself as an Englishman.
     
  7. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    How dare you. :lol:

    You ever ventured back there? That place is worse than ever.

    It used to be my place of exile. I used to go back there whenever I got banned from here just to tell everybody posting that I was far superior to them in every single way. That was about it really. Then I left.
     
  8. TommyV

    TommyV Loyal Member banned

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    He saw himself as Cornish. That's good enough for me.
     
  9. JonOli

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    I really like Eubank, but he does get a very easy ride for his evasive activity.
     
  10. Strongback

    Strongback Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did he ever go back to Cornwall on a visit after he left at the age of 9 ?
     
  11. Flea Man

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    yeah that's the only reason I'd go back :rofl

    Fitz was an American citizen at the time of arguably his greatest victory. I find him to ambiguous to truly couture him as British, but I regard him hgher P4P than any of our fghters.
     
  12. UndisputedUK

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    What happened to Steve Robinson, Barry Jones and the little guy who won the interim s? flyweight IBF? title and WBO bantamweight?
     
  13. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    4. jack kid berg
    12.nigel benn
    1.benny lynch
    2.lennox lewis
    3.bob fitzsimons
    5.jimmy wilde
    6.ted kid lewis
    7.naseem hamed
    8.john conteh
    9.joe calzaghe
    10.lloyd honeyghan
    11.jim driscoll
    13.ken buchanan
    14.ricky hatton
    15.digger stanley
    16.chris eubank
     
  14. Jersey Joe

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    I haven't seen enough footage of the old guys but I doubt they would have the same combination of chin, hand speed, combination punching, work rate, stamina & punch output as Calzaghe. Guys like Hagler, Steward and Leonard all rate him highly.

    The only flaws are lack of power because of his slaps, but that's because he knackered his hands years ago. You can't blame him for changing his style, and before the injuries he racked up a good number of legit KOs.

    Also, despite rather thin opposition, he did beat them all. That is extremely difficult.
     
  15. Flea Man

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    The opposition is too thin. And yes, the old timers had an awesome blend of attributes.