Prime david tua vs prime sam peter

I don't think it makes a difference, though. Tua hasn't been in a lot of wars or protracted battles. His chin should be sound. He wasn't prime, but that would amount to losing speed, mobility, even a bit of power. But the chin tends to stay intact until too much wear and tear takes place, which doesn't apply to someone as inactive as Tua.

Jameel McCline has a KO percentage of 44.3%. That's lower than former opponents Oleg Maskaev, both Klits, and...EDDIE CHAMBERS. :rofl

If there's ever a case for "hit someone on the right place at the right time and anybody can go down", McCline/Peter is it.

 

Prime TUA by KO

 

atsch How does it not make a difference when in the past he's shown that he could take a punch???

Thats the whole point...His punch resistance has declined because he's getting older. Hence the emphasis on "PRIME"

 

Peter was down by McCline, although if some big 6ft 6 guy hits you cleanly and weighs over 250lbs then it doesn't matter how tough you are, your going down. I see Peter as more dangerous, bigger, stronger, and just as durable than Tua. I'll take Peter on this one, who only struggles against opponents with slicker defenses, and not with crude plodders...

 

Then you're not a true boxing fan if you think "it don't make a difference". At age 38 years old with inactivity and all of that, not even the age is real close to 40 will help Tua chin. Tua may not have alot of wars but he had been hit way way way too much in which that will also take his tools. Barrett even his young days would never come close to knockdown a prime Tua.

 

Substantial difference in both skill and...whatever else I was going to say that I forgot as soon as I started typing. But definitely Tua is a higher class of fighter, and the fact that Peter is the one who got a hold of a title is just dumbass luck.

 

Tua has face bigger punchers then freaking Mccline and Tua was never close to being down in his prime or even when he weight over 240 pounds. Lewis couldn't even come close of stopping Tua when Tua weigh over 240 pounds. Hell Lewis took more chances vs a shot Tyson then he did vs a 240 pound Tua.

 

It doesn't make a difference because you're linking his age to his punch resistence, when it's actually more likely that he simply got caught, which can happen in the heavyweight divison to anybody at any given point.

Inactivity, age, skill level, none of that is really linked to one's intrinsic ability to take a punch. Granite chins can be chipped away with over time, but aside from Ike and arguably Lennix Lewis, he hasn't been in the sort of wars that destroy someone's chin. he's fought a total of 29 rounds in the last three years. Chins don't throw themselves away, not that his age.

He simply got caught. That happens. But I think you're focusing too much on that example, and not on my overall point. My point is that you can't say Peter has a poor chin because McCline knocked him down three times because Peter has been in with harder punchers than McCline and didn't budge. McCline hasn't even knocked out half his opponents. So I think you can write that off as a fluke that happens when someone is caught with just the right shot at just the right time. That was my point.

 

look at it this way - before the Peter/McCline fight, would you have ever imagined McCline being able to knock down Peter? You can't use A-B-C logic on this. That's the problem I'm having with you and Rudyard on this. You're basically saying, "oh, look, McCline KD's Peter, so of course Tua is going to KO Peter, because Tua is a much bigger puncher". But neither of the Klitschkos did it, Maskev didn't do it, and Eddie Chambers didn't do it. And do you know what they all have in common? They all have higher KO percentages than McCline. So either Peter's chin got WORSE just for the McCline fight, or the old axiom about what made heavyweights the glory division for decades holds true - when people that big throw punches, anything can happen.

Imagine if Ali hadn't fought Foreman or Shavers. Applying the logic you did here, you would have said, "For God's sake, demigawd, how could Ali stand a chance against monstrous punchers like those two when he was out on his feet and nearly stopped by Henry Cooper? LMAO! You're not a true boxing fan! LMAO!"

But of course we knew what happened when they did fight. ;-)

And that's why I don't look at a single fight - I look at the totality of careers. And in the totality of their careers, I don't really see one stopping the other, because they've shown their durability. I see a wide UD for Tua.

But of course, anything can happen!

 

Dude, follow Tua career and then you tell me if Tua wouldn't ko or tko a prime Peter ok? Like i said Tua may not have many wars but he has been hit way too much in his career in which will take his tool like in the last fight at 38 years old when he was knockdown for the first time in his career. Did you watch Lewis vs Tua? Did you see how Lewis win it? He win it by moving away way too much then he ever did vs a shot Tyson. Lewis took more chance with Tyson cause he knows Tyson is shot in the dark while Tua even though he weigh in at 246 , he wasn't shot in the dark. Did Peter took Mccline lightly to lead Mccline with those 3 knockdowns? Maybe Tua in his prime or even the same fighter that fought Lewis would never knockdown by Mccline.

 

Too be honest, you sound like you have not followed Tua's career...Its quite obvious that he's not the same fighter he was back in his prime...Thats the whole point.atsch

In his prime, Tua would have not looked that bad against Barrett...He would have sparked Monte...PERIOD! For you to use the Barrett fight isnt answering the question given that he asked for PRIME FOR PRIME..that Tua that fought Monte was not PRIME! What part are you not understanding?

 

Prime Tua would ko prime young Barrett in the 2nd or 3rd round.

 

LMAO @ you even making this thread. Dude i got no beef with you but seriously post a thread that is 40 times better then this ok? Cool.