Who In Your Opinion Is The Most Overrated ATG?

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Roy Jones Jr - When you break down his win column and put the wins in perspective, it doesn't match-up to a top 30 spot in my judgment. His reign at 175lbs was nothing special.
     
  2. Flea Man

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    He does match up well with my last point of questioning though; 'How did they do it'? He was pretty dominant, though as his wins really weren't that great (he has a few good ones obviously) his title win at Heavy keeps him at around 30-40 IMO. I have Gavilan, Napoles and Williams above him put it that way.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Well Spinks better resume at 175lbs and the much much better win at Heavyweight should see Michael be about 5-6 places above then? :good
     
  4. grumpy

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    I agree Roy Jones is overrated.
    Also Muhammad Ali
    Lennox Lewis
    Mike Tyson
    Felix Trinidad
    Oscar de La Hoya
    In no particular order
     
  5. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This was a great thread, lets hear some more posts!!
     
  6. Unforgiven

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    Lennox Lewis, lots of people here have him in the top 3 or 5 heavyweights of all-time. I dont think he belongs that high.
    To be honest, I think Wladimir Klitschko's got to be rated close to Lewis by now. Similar fighters. Yet some of the Lennox-lovers here are quick to dismiss Klitschko. That will either change, and they'll start calling WK a top 5 or 6 heavyweight OR they'll carry on being inconsistent.
    Frankly, neither of them would make my top 10. Lennox might scrape into the top 12 or 15.

    Sometimes I think Liston is a bit overrated.

    And Ray Leonard is overrated on all-time welterweight lists. He's routinely put in the top 2 welters of all-time on this board. I think that's too high.
     
  7. janitor

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    Well I would say that Dempsey is under rated on this site because a reaction has set in against his high ranking elswhere and it has turned into an over reaction.
     
  8. Casamayor122

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  9. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  10. PowerPuncher

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    Jones resume and circumstances of his fights are more scrutinised than any other ATG, the hate campaigns have pretty much brain washed the masses and the boxing newbies think he's the great fighter who didn't face all his contemparies

    My no1 vote goes to Armstrong, he's universally considered top5 and even no1 but his time at the top was very short and he never faced the top WW imo and he wasn't that dominant at his best weight against Ambers who I don't rate that highly. My other top 5 overrated list goes to Foster, Monzon, Dempsey, Ross but it really boils down to who's over/under rating someone
     
  11. Bonecrusher

    Bonecrusher Lineal Champion Full Member

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    Delahoya!!

    The Golden boy.....

    He was a very good fighter, but come on he lost or should have lost on the big stage many times.

    At lightweight he was a beast early in his career.

    His fight against Whitaker could have gone either way and Whitaker was well past it. Trinidad was much more impressive against Whitaker.

    In The Trinidad Super Fight, he avoided contact down the stretch and also avoided a Decision win.

    Another loss to Mosley while still clearly in his prime.

    The Vargas fight was a good win, but again Trinidads was more impressive.

    Another loss to Mosley although I thought Delahoya won this one.

    Felix Sturm, I know he was out of shape but still this could be another loss!!

    Point is in his prime this guy came up short alot, have to run I will have more later.
     
  12. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How many welterweight champs do you think could have beaten Leonard ? Robinson could have definitely,but I'm hard pushed to think of many more. Though there are a few I would give a 50/50 shot to.
     
  13. bighappy

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    if tito ATG he's at the bottom of the list , lewis hell on he was the best in a sorry heavy weight division. kostya tszyu as well
     
  14. PowerPuncher

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    Lennox beat everyone he faced in 1 of the best eras, Wlad who I do rate highly (maybe over Dempsey already) is nowhere near Lennox resume wise, you could argue Lennox has about 10wins better than anyone Wlad has ever faced in Holyfield, Vitali, Tua, Tyson, Golota, Rudduck, Prime Rahman, Bruno, Prime Mercer, Morrison. Its not Wlad's fault he's not in a great era and his dominance gets him marks none the less, he will always have the Sanders and Purrity unavenged losses though

    I found it interesting Steward said Wlad kicked Vitali out of training camp for the first Sam Peter fight because his brother was being so negative
     
  15. werety

    werety Active Member Full Member

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    Is that a joke??