is a UFC monopoly good for the sport? (long read)

Good post, good points.

 

Fighting has no governing body, not a proper one at least, even the commissions are questionable.

Given that, I think we do need 2 major orgs acting as the NFL of MMA. The UFC do an excellent job of acting like the NFL. I think we need 2 because competition is healthy. Too much competition is silly.

SF are a legit org with excellent fighters who could compete with the UFC's best. SF are needed to pick up the left over share of the market that UFC will never control, even if they had the whole game to themselves.

Like in boxing, WBC and WBA together created some great times. Bring in the WBO and IBF and it became a joke.

 

that was a great post, good job finding it and bringing it here.

many narrow minded people with flame you for even bringing this up but its raises a good question. You can argue for a giant corp to lead mma, many of the arguments for it are listed above in the TS post.

I believe that a monopoly is bad for a worldwide sport like mma,I think the sport like any other will have ups and downs in popularity, but needs good competition between orgs to maintain consistently entertaining. competition, as stated in the opening is great for the fighters, but the fans gain as well because, if one org isnt putting on great fights, (or relevant ones) we will just support an org that does. monopolies can **** on their customers and on their fighters and get away with it because their are no other options.

I dont think a giant corp controls all of mma, and hopefully it will never happen.

 

well if SF was able to compete with the ufc I would agree with your post, but right now it is still trying to stand on shaky legs, Srikeforce could fall like so many other orgs, and the ufc would pick up the scraps.

 

Alot of people are hitting SF and they have some way to improve BUT the fact is they are on Showtime and CBS which to my understanding are big channels in the US. They also have had and still do have a number of fighters the UFC want - Shields, Overeem, Mousasi etc

They aren't the equals of the UFC but for me they provide excellent competition.

If SF fall then maybe Dream would get bigger and provide an org like Pride. As I said, the UFC won't be able to take every fighter so pretending to be the NFL of MMA is their best bet. There will always be rivals who act as competition.

 

yeah thats why I wonder why theyre targeting streams?

 

Ever notice that the guys who accuse the UFC of becoming the WWE are the same ones with an undying loyalty to Pride? I thinks its funny that one second they're complaining about the UFC's lack of Pride esque pageantry, ring, and entrance ramp and then in the next thread its "**** UFC - I wana see MMA NOT WWE garbage". Like seriously guys, Brock Lesnar's too much "pro-wrestling" for you but the org with the ACTUAL fixed fights (see Coleman/Takada) and the matchups between MMA newcomers/Freakshows/Japanese pro wrestlers and world class talent is supposedly the high water mark for MMA?

Absolute nonsense :-(

 

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Wtf?
who said this? how about responding to the TS topic instead of the ufc>pride bull****.

 

Chill nubby, I was responding to the TS topic, particularly the section that claims the UFC is converting to a "WWE-matchmaking-style". I also recognize the fact that many individuals who make this jump in logic (including the threadstarter) are also those who preach Pride as the gospel of MMA. I just think its funny that people who speak out against "Zuffa Zombies" for their blind loyalty to Dana can be so blind themselves.

As for the question of whether or not a UFC monopoly is good for the sport, I think its completely irrelevant. The UFC will never have a monopoly over the sport and I doubt they want one. As long as the UFC maintains its reputation as the premier MMA org in the world given its popularity, influence, and command over the majority of the best fighters, all they have to do is wait for smaller orgs to establish their future superstars. The rest of the MMA world basically becomes a farm system for Zuffa.

 

Well, there isn't now nor is there likely to be an actual monopoly.

 

the point of this thread is to discuss the effects of one organization controlling the vast majority of the sport of mma.

it seems that you have nothing relevant to contribute to the topic. if so, why even post in this thread? without strikeforce, the ufc would have in effect, complete control of the mma north American market, that is a monopoly. do you comprehend?

basically the same for all intense and purposes. no competition, so all fighters and fans submit to zuffa's rule or be damned. but some feel that this control is good for mma for reasons stated by the TS. How do you feel on this topic? do you need me to hold your hand and wipe your nose? do you have a reading disorder? perhaps there should be a forum for special needs posters:roll:

 

The only thing "special needs" about this thread is the fact that you think Strikeforce is the only other org in North American MMA besides UFC. Actually I take it back there are a lot of ******ed things about your posts, ie your grammar, your name, your avatar, you. If I have something to post I'm gonna post it and don't tell me otherwise. I came here to talk about MMA, not to have some dude who jerks off to anime ask me if I want to hold his hand.

 

Don't know if it's good for the sport-but it is GREAT for business.:thumbsup

 

see what I mean, your not that smart.

my name, my avatar and myself are special needs, that my friend makes no sense. you came here to talk mma then do it or shut the **** up. your insults are worthless, speak to the point or go away.

strikeforce is the only real competition to the ufc in north america at the moment. lets not play games the ts had a interesting topic to discuss, you need to realize their are people with different opinions then you on this site, they are not stupid because they don't see it your way.

I don't agree with almost anything you write like how since im a fan of anime that means I jerk off to it:yep you enjoy watching mma? do you jerk off to that? maybe that explains you lack of knowledge on the subject you are too busy playing with yourself to notice what's going on.

Im sorry if I have bad grammar. I guess that makes you right and me wrong:roll: