Who In Your Opinion Is The Most Overrated ATG?

Yeah, I think unorthodox fighters too often are mistaken for unskilled. But that's a different discussion.

 

As I said, I don't want it to derail into this discussion. Let's just say that the Hopkins that Jones beat was already very good and he beat him easily without having reached the peak of his powers himself. He probably wasn't even at his best weight class at the time.

All in all I think this makes for a very impressive win.

 

Why so reluctant to discuss it? I'm not trying to completely discredit Jones for the victory, but I think it's fair to say that it's a little short of being as great of an achievement as it reads on paper. That's all.

 

It's just that I've been in very long discussions on this very topic before. Don't want to wake the wrong people...

But, yeah, had he beaten Hopkins that easily in say 2001 then it would be a greater win. But it would never be perfect. Was it done at LHW or even at SMW there would always be people saying that it wasn't Hopkins best weight etc.

 

Roberto Duran.

 

I haven't seen any on this forum, or very many places at all. The majority of the time I see his name mentioned it's regarding how overrated he is. You won't find a fighter more highly regarded during his time. Langford himself claimed Dempsey as the best Heavyweight he'd ever seen.

 

Lennox Lewis. Even though I dont consider him an alltime great alot of people here do. I think he is a good solid big man but definatly not an all time great. I personally think Bowe would have taken him too.

 

Yep, it's almost like reverse overrating. The boxing media, fighters, and trainers of the time have him rated super high, tons of praise, etc but all we have today of the man are some grainy films of him beating on mediocre contenders, one or two fights of him in his prime, and tunney boxing his ears off. Hard to know how good he really was.

 

HAHA yea I was wondering because I vaguely remember something about Payakaroon attempting a comeback in the 90's. Payakaroon really was a legend in his own right though, to be on of the greatest Muay Thai fighters of all time and a championship level boxer is pretty amazing.

 

Khaosai Galaxy
ricardo Lopez
Pone Kingpetch
Lennox Lewis
Floyd Mayweather jr
Ayub Kalule
Michael Spinks

 

I don't consider him an ATG, but James Toney is overrated IMO.

 

...No.

 

disagree.
he was really only defeated twice, by the absolute best, and he beat the best out there until then.

 

...And universally remembered mostly for his only official loss.

One overrated **** that Spinks.

 

Rocky Marciano.