Hey pacfans: How many times has Manny ACTUALLY DEFENDED his Championships??

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  1. jansby mac

    jansby mac Well-Known Member Full Member

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    THIS
    PAC should have stayed at flyweight and defended his belt up to when he retires...and PAC moving all the way up to WW is just a ***** move:patsch
     
  2. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Every fighter at one time or anther has fought a fighter that lost. when PAC beat Cotto, Cotto was coming off two wins.

    When Manny beat Ricky he was coming off a win over Paulie.

    When PAC beat DLH he was coming off a win against Forbes and a split decision loss to the then P4P King, Floyd.

    When PAC beat Diaz, Diaz was on a 7 or 8 fight win streak over guys like Ramon and Erik Morales.

    When PAC beat JMM, JMM just beat Rocky and MAB.

    And when PAC beat MAB in the rematch he did come off a loss to JMM, but before that he beat Juraez.

    So.....what exactly were you saying again?:think
     
  3. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Before you start stroking anther mans dick besides Floyd....you might want to brush up on your facts.:yep
     
  4. jerryrard

    jerryrard Member Full Member

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    Take it easy on him... *****s need the support coz they are beginning to accept the fact that their main man is duckin Pac. So the need for consolation is tremendous. Please be sensitive.
     
  5. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    so look at my points. also erik got beat by zahir raheem when he got beat by pac so i have just proved my point

    basially no pac opponent has been on a more then two fight win astreak which at elite level is terrible

    still is a great fighter
     
  6. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    AHAHA!....Honestly bro I'm one of the NICER guys on ESB who responds to the few Floyd fanatics left who are hell bent on defending Floyd's rep. :lol: I give these guys credit for being loyal....but loyal to the point where they are coming off borderline ******ed or blindly in love with a pipe dream. I'm sure Floyd is NOT switch hittin so all their efforts will be for nothing.:rofl If they are expecting some kind of gratitude from "Money".
     
  7. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    im livo

    its a hrd challenge, every fan will support who they want to support which i fine by me, i just want to make them aware that pac man has been steadily brought up with a great match making team who know when to make the right fights due to their opponents been vunerable or on lower confidence

    where have you been by the way
     
  8. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ok....Floyd beat Zab who came off a loss to Baldo.?.? Who gives a ****? It was a great fight with a lot of drama. Your "Point" was just picked apart like Floyd did Shane and PAC did Cotto.

    nah...at the ELITE level fighters WIN and LOSE when they are challenging themselves. It's the guys with Undfeated records who are fighting EASY fights that you gotta question.
     
  9. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's fine if you want to pull cards and spin your point of view but don't make it so transparent..... Floyd himeslf has been accused of "great match making", Cherry pickin and avoiding true challenges.

    I've never call Floyd a cherry picker, a ducker or anything else (except w/him ducking PAC) b/c even though Floyd could have faced other guys no matter WHAT HE DOES....NO MATTER WHAT PAC DOES....OR whom they face....it will ALWYAS be met with some folks who over anaylze and critize them for not fighting "such and such". It's just funny to me. Especually when it comest to PAC b/c he's faced ALL the top guys and he still has a few guys who won't ever find it in them to give him props.
     
  10. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    question: can you acknowledge that pac has fought good fighters and some great fighters who have lost prior to pac facing them, firstly by getting knocked the **** out and being at their most vulnerable or have lost to fighters that they shouldnt have, proving that they were clearly out their prime.

    and yes every great fighter has a good management but there arent many fighters who need a fighter to be at their lowest point, to beat them.

    closing thoughts. on the last two posts i have gave pacman his props but as a fan of his and floyds i cant deny his path to greatness is tarnished somewhat slightly.

    did i mention that margo got knocked the **** out in his last but 1 fight and surprise surprise he is fighting pac.
     
  11. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  12. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I answered your question....OF COURSE!:lol: It's boxing! You win some and lose some especially when you are always stepping up your level of comp. Unfortunately NO great fighters are EVER going to be able to beat ALL PRIME fighters their entire career. Just impossible. But for some reason you think PAC is the only one.

    Floyd's resume is FILLED to the brim with examples you are using to discredit Manny on some level. DLH too....Shane, Roy, Ray Robinson and Leonard....the list goes on and on. So your stance on the issue is a bit flimsy.

    If Manny's "Path to greatness" is what you say "tarnished" then so are ALL the other greats before him who have gone through the same things and same critisim.

    Actually Marg won his last fight by UD bro.....you seem to be lacking some boxing knowledge in more than one area.

    The biggest surprise is Floyd ducking out on facing this guy who you seem to think is "great" but only due to stellar match making giving the illusion PAC is great when in reality...or "your reality" Manny is just a good pro boxer who got lucky.
     
  13. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    He said ''last but one''
     
  14. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Who gives a **** about this Topic? Floyd doesn't even want to fight Pac. The fight that every boxing fan wants to see.