Who In Your Opinion Is The Most Overrated ATG?

Greg "Pitter" Paterson: :|:emma:rant:crybaby

 

Stop changing those ****ing avatars Addie.

 

I had too. Someone said the one previous depicted a little boy.

 

Bob Foster is not overrated.

 

Agreed...just feather-fisted.

 

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on why from the bolded choices (Lewis, Arguello)

 

Hell no.

If Bob Fitzsimmons had been a 200lb fighter with an identical heavyweight record, he would be on most peoples top 20 all time heavyweight lists.

He not only cleaned out the top heavyweight contenders of his era, he brutaly destroyed them.

 

Too bad Fitz didn't take on a talented 6'6 Fighter like Denver Ed Martin. Would have really opened up my eyes to have seen him knockout Martin. Or even Frank Childs.

 

Martin tried to make a fight with Fitzsimmons after the second Jeffries Fitzsimmons fight.

Fitz declined because hewas making more money sparring with Jeffries than he was offered for Martin, and he probably knew that he would never be champion again.

 

Had he been 185lb, he could make a case for top 20. But something about being 160-165lb...just too damm light. Fitz was not known for his durability.

 

I think that Fitz gets penalized in heavyweight rankings because of his size. When judging his resume it shouldnt theoreticaly matter.

I think he was fairly durable. He took shots from some big heavyweights and it was only really Jeffries who knocked him out before he was old and frail.

 

In terms of HOW overrated they are, I choose Ali. 95% of people will tell you he was the greatest fighter ever which is untrue. He was great, very great, but not the greatest. He dropped a decision to Norton. He lost to Frazier. He was great but not in the class of the likes of Louis, Robinson etc.

 

Yes...but my rankings take into account both resume and H2H. I also think the corbett win is highly questionable because of the knockdown fitz suffered. He grabbed onto corbett on the way down delaying himself several seconds to recover.

Like who? Ed Dunkhorst? Gus Ruhlin? Millard Zender? Charles Puff? Abe Coughle?

Bill Hall knocked him out. Corbett had him down and out. I don't think his chin was weak, but it certainly was not a strong point no? Wasn't his whole style revolved around not getting hit? Sitting back and setting up one big countertrap shot?

 

And what of Louis being KO'd by Schmeling, being out-boxed the majority of the time against Lt. Heavyweight Billy Conn, and winning a very questionable decision against Walcott? You can point out these kinds of things on most any fighter's resume.