The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    I don't like the catchweights, I don't care how many greats may have done it in the past, but using them as a way to go for "records" for titles in different weight classes is not something I agree with. You want the title? fight at the weight, or shut up. Catch weights are fine as long as there are no titles on the line.
     
  2. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fully agreed. It's so bogus to be "setting records for titles" by draining guys down and beating them while they're not at full capacity, then parading around with a "title". It's just a joke.

    Edit: The worst thing about it is that Pacquiao can win that fight even at 154lbs. The weight limit has nothing to do with this one, yet he'll still get that advantage awarded to him. He always will, so long as he's fighting guys in Arum's stable or those who have no leg to stand on to decline since they need the career-high payday.
     
  3. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Another ducked thread intended to challenge a pac side logic (including non fans of pac who back him in this). You must realize that you cannot make appeals to logic with them. You will just get ignored and skipped over until a floyd fan comes with something weak for them to go at.
     
  4. Mind Reader

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    Yep... That does **** me off about Pac.. He could beat Margo at 154, but has to have a catch weight where the title is involved just to give him even more of an advantage, while being credited as this fearless weight jumping warrior that doesn't calculate risks.
     
  5. Lance_Uppercut

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    Do you ****s not understand INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY?

    And please...SHYT? :patsch
     
  6. pejevan

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    To all *****s : jump off the bridge now.

    This is Floyd Mayweather commanding you, your Master.
     
  7. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    i didnt call him guilty....what are u talkin about....i just find it completely suspicious how a person lies about why he cant take the test, has superficial reasons as to why, wants to place windows on RANDOM drug testing but says he's clean and is a warrior......i dont see how can u defend that shyt...its the reason the fight aint happening...so yea i place blame on pac just as much as Floyd!


    cry about people defending Floyd but yet agree with that shyt?
     
  8. lastletter26

    lastletter26 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When you say no to random drug testing, you make yourself look suspect. Especially when the purpose of the drug testing is to provide a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD LOL. Pretty simple and you need a better excuse than the superstition that pac is using.
     
  9. Ricky369

    Ricky369 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's funny to see how Floyd always said Cotto wasn't ready for him, even when Cotto was at his best. Now that Cotto seems to be going down Floyd is considering a fight against him. But I am not surprised!! This has been Floyd's SOP for years
     
  10. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Arum also said it

    and at what point did Arum reach out to Floyd to fight Cotto like he did for lets say Margo?

    u kno why Cotto was his cash cow at the time....he didnt wanna pit him with Floyd...but was all to willing to throw Margo out there who no doubt would have been tough but wasnt offering a better deal and Margo wouldnt have hurt his pockets much if he lost...point is he offered with Margo he wanted that fight....he never did anything of the sort with Cotto...he just ran his mouth...as usual
     
  11. Marnoff

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    Yep. Pacquiao's career has been one of the most carefully guided careers in the history of the sport. He's done all the right things once breaking through as a top fighter. The way he's drained the hell out of people has been a masterclass in gaining advantages and winning fights before they begin.
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Funny when you think about and not to mention he avoids certain styles like the plague.
     
  13. pejevan

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    “I feel Mayweather’s whole game is off mental intimidation, kind of like Muhammad Ali,” says the American boxer. “And what he was doing was he was actually trying to bully a fight with Manny Pacquiao. But he’s waited too long. And the longer he waited, he got to see what Pacquiao is able to do.
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    Mayweather took De La Hoya to a split decision. De La Hoya wasn’t in shape for that fight. And if you YouTube their 24/7, De La Hoya says right there on the 24/7, he’s doing something for his wife to get brownie points. And all men know what thats means – he’s having sex during training. So he fought a De La Hoya who just got in the ring for the money. And fought him to a split decision. An old De La Hoya.”
    “So Pacquiao gets in the ring – they can say De La Hoya was dehydrated or whatever – De La Hoya is one of the smartest boxers – he knew what he was doing. He got in the ring and right there in that ring, Freddie Roach told Pacquiao, Change the gameplan, go straight at him. We’re gonna get him. And he stopped him. Then he goes out there and just crushes Ricky Hatton. And lays him out on the Rock Star sign. Ricky Hatton had Mayweather moving around for, what, 10 rounds? Mayweather didn’t want to fight Ricky Hatton, he kept waiting till he got exposed. Once he got exposed by the same fighter who beat Andre Berto and they robbed him (Luis Collazo). He always got robbed. He beat Ricky Hatton, he buckled Ricky Hatton. That’s when Mayweather said, I’ll take that fight.”
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    When Mayweather saw – not only what Manny Pacquiao did to Miguel Cotto, but he took a tough Miguel Cotto left hook – he buckled off that left hook and he tapped them gloves together and told that boy, Come on. And beat him up. Beat him up.”
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    (Color pencil drawing of “Manny Pacquiao vs. Miguel Cotto” is by Artist John Paul Raloto.)
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    Margarito starts slow, has no speed, no defense. That lil boy gonna stop that man.”
    I ask our obviously well-schooled and intelligent boxer what does he think is next for Mayweather? Maybe Berto or Williams?
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    I seen him lose to Collazo. I seen him get dropped. I don’t think he should go past three round with Mayweather, that should be a sparring session.”
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    He had problems with Sharmba Mitchell but he beat him – (Mitchell was) washed up. He had problems with Chop Chop – Chop Chop hurt him in the fight. Zab dropped Mayweather, Zab gave Mayweather hell for the first four rounds. His style is not really for southpaw fighters. I believe if Zab was a disciplined fighter, trains at his hardest, did what he’s supposed to do, he’d a beat Mayweather that night. But he ran out of gas like Mayweather said weeks before: ‘We all know what’s gonna happen. Zab is a front-runner. We all know that front-runners eat you up in the beginning of the fight.’ I don’t even believe Mayweather is beating these fighters down – he’s training a lot harder. So he’s able to last longer.”
    The boxer who has shared this fascinatingly blunt analysis is Richard Pierson, a 29-year-old middleweight prospect from Paterson, NJ. Pierson was the former sparring partner of Tomasz Adamek and Kelly Pavlik before each of his Jermain Taylor fights.
     
  14. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Impossible to prove someone guilty when they refuse to be adequately tested.
     
  15. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ...Who?
     
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