Evander Holyfield -vs- Ezzard Charles:

I cannot see this happening. The fight will definitely go the distance. You appear to devalue charles as a fighter much more than others. If Charles puts up a ''good effort" like you imply, then most likely he will outbox evander for a decision. Charles will not be getting knocked out. Charles has a good proven chin, and evander isn't exactly a knockout artist.

 

Holyfield wins this.

 

I think holyfield's combination punching will bet nullified by charles superior skills, faster hands, and blazing accurate 1-2.

 

I think Holyfield's skills were comparable. In fact, he WAS compared to Charles early on.
Holyfield was fast, stronger, more powerful, and he could take a punch better, IMO.
I think people forget how good Holyfield was in his prime.

 

How did Marciano, not exactly known for his speed nor his combination punching, end up beating him...or was this down to Charles being past it?

 

A. Marciano was better than holyfield. Much more powerful, higher workrate, a better all around puncher than holyfield.

B. Charles was past his prime

In fact if Charles-Marciano I shows us anything, it's that evander would never knockout Holyfield.

 

I don't forget... I know evander was great, but people truly don't realize how special Ezzard was in his prime. A top 5 p4p fighter of all time imo. Charles could do it all. Evander has nice skills, but I do not think they are on the level of Ezzard Charles. Charles will not brawl evander, he will box him. I can't see evander winning the boxing match here. Even if Evander brawls his way inside..charles had faster hands, terrific infighting skills and could put together some fast flurries himself to get out of harm's way.

 

I haven't seen extensive amounts of footage of Charles, but from what I've seen I'd have Holyfield as the slightly more complete, skilled fighter. Together with his superior strength, chin and power I believe this makes him the favourite.

 

TBH he was past his prime even before facing Marciano. He was a beast pre-Baroudi. I'm not exactly sure what his first fight past his prime was but I'm pretty sure it was in '48 and that's before he even moved up to face Walcott & Louis.

 

Disagree:

Holyfield was the better "boxer," specifically when he hooked up with George Benton.
Holyfield was the better "fighter" and proved it on a higher level.
Holyfield's chin was proven on the higher level, just like his HW career was.

Holyfield had the harder tests in his boxing career than Marciano.

Attributes:


Holyfield was Bigger/Stronger than Marciano. Faster than Marciano. Could put together better combinations than Marciano.

Work-rate: Yeah, Marciano can have it there but he still struggled with fighters who didn't have quite the work-rate as he had.

Holyfield beats Marciano.

All opinion of course.

 

I loved his second fight with Marshall that infighting was marvelous.

 

Better once punch power perhaps.
But Holyfield was consistently more accurate and put his punches together beautifully.
Holyfield, I'd say, was a better fighter all-round.

 

Better all around puncher. Better finisher, better knockout artist, better two fisted attack, Marciano may not put his punches together as beautifully as evander, but his punching attack that involves two fisted sledgehammers hitting you anywhere and everywhere from different types of angles is much more effective than holyfield's two fisted attack. Holyfield does not compare to Marciano as a puncher.

 

Bigger Yes. Strong No. He may have put together better combination, but marciano was the much harder puncher, and overall much better puncher.


Evander had a bad habit..he loved to brawl at all times. This will be his downfall against marciano...holyfield is not going to win going toe to toe with the Rock.


Marciano by mid to Late TKO

Anyway, Marciano's not on trial here. Ezzard is.

 

What makes you think Rocky was stronger?

Him fighting Light-Heavyweights?

Look who Holyfield had to go through. Super-Heavyweights. Holyfield was tested at a much higher level, agree or disagree?


Actually, Tyson said D'Amato told him the way to beat Rocky is to go at him.