Evander Holyfield -vs- Ezzard Charles:

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  1. Unforgiven

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    I dont think Marciano's attack was "much more effective than Holyfield's" at all.
    Holyfield beat up a lot of very good fighters, stopped many of them, thereby proving his offensive effectiveness.

    Both were vicious animals on offense in their primes.
     
  2. brownshell

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    At LHW Charles by UD. At HW Holyfield by UD.
     
  3. yaca you

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    Ezzard Charles wins by decision.

    This would look similar to Louis vs Charles. a lot of inside fighting with charles speed being the deciding factor. If it stayed more at range charles would be able to use that speed advantage to land cleaner and more often, when holyfield brawls "The Cincinnati Cobra" would make evanader pay. Holyfield is not a big puncher, so I cant see him knocking out Charles. the only advantage I see for holyfield is size, it goes the full 15 (it is a 15 rounder right?)charles may have some trouble with holeyfield being stronger, but perseveres by fighting smarter.

    Ezzard charles wins this by a clear UD.
     
  4. Minotauro

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    I would take Charles via decision. He is the better in fighter, quicker and would dictate what type of fight it is.
     
  5. SuzieQ49

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    Let's compare Marciano and Holyfield as punchers

    A. Marciano knocked out every single ranked opponent he ever faced.

    B. Marciano is 6-0 with 5 knockouts against Hall Of Famers

    C. Marciano has an 88% knockout percentage

    What does holyfield have or what did he accomplish to come close to these amazing statistics?

    There is no doubt Holyfield was an ATG fighter, with an ATG resume. However, he never proved himself a "Great" puncher in my eyes.


    I disagree on Holyfield. I think he was a good puncher, but not a great one. I do think holyfield was an all around complete fighter and one of the best warriors of all time..but he was not an all time great puncher like Marciano was.
     
  6. he grant

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    Holyfield fought such superior competition there is no accurate way to gage them. Holyfield's one punch KO of Douglas was every bit as impressive as Marciano's over Walcott ...
     
  7. BUDW

    BUDW Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Charles better boxer better ring general he boxes his way to a ud.
     
  8. SuzieQ49

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    :lol::lol::lol::patsch:patsch:patsch The most ludicrous comment ever posted.

    Do you realize fat whale Douglas could have beaten the count, but chose to stay down? You think Walcott could have made a count of 100? :lol:

    I can't believe your comparing the Douglas kayo to possibly the greatest one punch knockout of all time. :patsch


    Holyfield also fought superior competition to Joe Louis, Sonny Liston, George Foreman, Jack Dempsey. Does this mean their is no accurate way to gage Holyfield as a puncher with the above men?


    Marciano was an all time great puncher. Possibly a top 5 p4p puncher of all time. Holyfield doesn't even come close.
     
  9. Unforgiven

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    Well, we were talking about "effectiveness of attack" not who's the bigger puncher.
     
  10. he grant

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    I know this reeks of blasphemy but who had the best chin of any man Rocky KO'ed ? WE know that Charles was flattened before multiple times as was Walcott and Moore ...I guess 37 year old Louis ...
     
  11. Unforgiven

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    I think Charles had only been stopped twice, but he'd spent much of his career fighting middles and light-heavyweights.
    Him and Walcott I'd put in the same category. Decent chins.

    Joe Louis probably had the best of the men Rocky beat, yes. Though Rocky actually said otherwise, he said "Louis could no longer take a punch ANYWHERE on the head" .... so I guess it's Walcott or Charles.
     
  12. SuzieQ49

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    The best chin has to go to Rex Layne..

    Watch him take these monsterous shots off of Bob Satterfield


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKUlBPErrn0[/ame]
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    Maybe Layne then.
    He did take those hard shots from Satterfield, but he also went down and was knocked staggering badly a few times too. Then again, maybe Satterfield would have done that to anyone had he landed.
     
  14. The Mongoose

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    Charles beat many top heavyweight contenders during his light heavyweight prime..guys like Ray, Bivins, Maxim, and Matisi.
     
  15. Minotauro

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    Holy has the better chin but Charles has great recovery and was extremely durable and difficult to stop. I don't see Holyfield stopping Charles and very slim chance of Evander winning over the distance.