The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    again it is all your opinion that cotto had lost something but what is it? as far as i can see, cotto looked good in a fight against someone who is hard to look good against. he even did it with just one eye if you would forget.

    and i laugh at your double standards by saying he should have fought bradley instead of hatton because he lost to floyd at 147? what does it have to do with hatton ang his capabilty at 140?
     
  2. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto looked like he was ready to be taken out and was in pure survival mode. Clottey for some reason, slowed down.

    True, Cotto has been down before and rocked and went into survival mode until he gathered himself...even relying on low-blows to buy time. But this time around, it just looked different.


    Really?
    Shane didn't gas out against Margarito, why?

    You don't have to think against guys like Margarito. Their defense is weak and they can't adjust. The less you have to think the less you have to worry and you don't have your blood-pressure going up which will zap your stamina. That's one possibility.

    When else did Shane gas out after 3 rounds?
    Why did it only happen with Floyd?

    Shane has never been KTFO. Cotto has.

    Shane is the bigger threat holding Cotto's former title. Shane was Champ and was "to good" according to Roach. And proved with Pac facing Cotto instead of Shane (who was coming off the destruction win over Margarito).

    Shane has a much better chin than Cotto. You can hurt Cotto and try to attack when he goes into survival mode. you only have to worry about the low blows which Roach went into that fight warning of what Cotto could do and should not be allowed to do it.
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

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    just look at this, would pac's resume look much better if he had fought bradley and mosley back in 2009 instead of hatton and cotto? i don't think so. bradley was an up and coming fighter back then.
     
  4. Caelum

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    Bradley, NO; Shane, YES.

    Still think Bradley was the tougher fight at that time. Like I said before, two ways of looking at it.
     
  5. puga_ni_nana

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    shane gassed-out in the cotto fight. he was a little younger back then. he looked terrible against mayorga but was lucky in the last minute.

    and if pac really wants an easier fight, he should have took shane at 140 where shane was offering to fight pacquiao.
     
  6. LastQuark

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    If you don't include boxing politics and money into the equation, then you are a ******.

    Pac will earn 2x the money he will earn fighting Cotto. Why will Pac and Arum give Golden Boy part of it when they got the fighter that beat Shane?
     
  7. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i just saw pac's 5th fight and if people can just somehow see the path he has been through, they'll see how unbelievable pac's achievements are considering the circumstances.
     
  8. cerberus713

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    These threads just keep getting better and better don't they? sure, ****ing a!, no top competition at all!!! Barrera x2,Marquez x2.Morales x3, Cotto,Clottey,De La Hoya, **** Pac hasn't fought anybody at all!!! No wonder everyone hates him!!!
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

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    bradley is not even in the equation back then. pac-hatton was the most awaited boxing fight back then when bradley had just edged holt. why would pac suddenly go from fighting oscar then go fighting an up and comer bradley who only has cherry and witter in his cap?

    shane might be bigger but not as much you would like to think. if you factor the age and cotto's win over mosley, cotto is the bigger fight.
     
  10. Caelum

    Caelum Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yet it was a close fight for the full fight.

    Shane is past his best. That is the given.

    Shane was "to good" at WW. Freddie Roach said that. Shane was The Champ at 147. 140 didn't come up until much later.



    Why fight Cotto instead of Shane when Cotto was KTFO by Margarito and Shane just destroyed him for the WW title?
     
  11. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    seriously, i think this wll never stop even after pac has retired. fanboys will always be flocking in the same threads saying the same things over and over just for personal enjoyment.
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

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    you are running out of argument and you will pull what roach had said again. why not cotto when he has a win over mosley?

    please you are caught with your double standards regarding bradley. now you are complaining that pac fought cotto instead of mosley? it's like some idiot compalining why you fought martinez when you can fight williams? i understand if pac fought alfonso gomez instead of mosley but you are nitpicking cotto as an opponent here.
     
  13. Caelum

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    didn't Bradley have a World Title even if it should be considered paper?
    Wasn't Bradley undefeated?

    Point with Bradley is who was the bigger threat. I don't think a Post-KO'd Hatton who didn't look good against Lazcano was exactly the sure #1 threat still. I'm not sure Hatton beats Bradley at that time.

    From a business and legacy stand-point, YES, Hatton was the wise choice and for that, I agree with the fight.

    Now on to WW:


    Cotto was destroyed by Margarito. You can't erase that fact. Cotto did not have a real world title since Margarito took it from him who got it taken away by him from Shane Mosley.

    Shane was the bigger Match because he was THE CHAMP at WW who destroyed Margarito who destroyed Cotto.

    A destruction of someone while taking the title away is bigger than simply out-pointed the person.
     
  14. Caelum

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    :patsch Because that was an undefeated Cotto who had yet to be plastered against Margarito who won a close fight against Shane. Some actually think Shane won but that is another debate.. And Shane Destroyed Margarito for the WW title which Margarito got from destroying Cotto.

    KO win > close decision

    Shane was The Champ at WW at the time. He was the true #1
     
  15. puga_ni_nana

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    hatton had just destroyed ad stopped the #2 malignaggi back then. bradley had just edged cherry. bradley is not a tougher fight back then and there is zero sense making this fight.

    again you are complaining as if pac took a bum in replacement of mosley. i repeat, mosley could be bigger but take the fact that cotto is way younger and has a win over mosley himself, cotto is as much a threat as mosley that time. your nitpicking is evident.
     
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