Pavlik's trainer: We Would Fight Dawson, Angulo,Cloud

The same success he's had at least (at middleweight).

Loew is not a great trainer.

 

ahhh....

thought you meant kelly rode the wave of an overexposed hbo mw champ in taylor. which you could argue.

i was clearly wrong. my apologies IB, meant nothing by it. :thumbsup

 

Only problem there is Sergio entered the picture. After that fight, don't think many will pick him over Sergio, no matter the trainer.

Moving up, prospects don't look too good either.

 

It's all good. I wasn't implying that HBO built up or overhyped Pavlik as a middleweight champ, just that due to his diamond in the rough talent he became a far more lucrative charge than you'd expect someone like Loew to have under their wing.

It's still not too late for Kelly to do himself some big favors and just start anew. New location, new promoter, new trainer, new sparring partners - a complete change of scenery could only help him.

 

Must suck that he was once the undisputed middle weight champion of the world at age 26. Meanwhile, you're 42 and jacking off to 15 year old porn mags in your mom's basement.

 

Yeah, NEVER fight someone you might lose too. Kelly "The Ghost" Mayweather? Just doesn't sound right. If you haven't been beaten you may have never really tested yourself.

 

Bute is available sooner.

 

Martinez and Hopkins were fighters Kelly chose to fight. No one chose those fights for him. Pavlik chose those opponents. Do not post non-sense about events you clearly have no knowledge of.
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There seems to be an inordinate number of moronic ****-wits on ESB these days. There has never been a shortage of imbeciles, but ever since Mayweather came out of retirement the number has grown daily. Fools **** all over Pavlik for fighting his ****ing mandatories, and then the same clowns criticize him if he challenges his limitations, and truly wants to test himself like every prize fighter should. It's no surpise that my ignore list has grown to over 70 posters.

 

You have issues.

Seek help.

 

you must go to their weight class because after fighting nobodies and backing out of the Williams fight 2x, you were soundly defeated by Sergio Martinez at 160lb. Hence your stock has fallen.

Dawson or Cloud would probably drop to Super Middle, but they'd still be faster than you and probably have the power to ko you.

Fight Lucian Bute!!