The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

it doesn't matter. that version of margo which was unfocused and shocked that he was caught cheating could not fight properly. did you see the look in his face as if he was not in the ring at the moment theya re fighting, margo looked lost. that same margo would be beaten by cotto, even the post pac version.

pac took on hatton and cotto, did the fight fans complain that time that he was taking-on cotto and not mosley? only now there are complains in hindsight after pac had beaten cotto. back then, it was even a 50-50 fight here in ESB. you are nitpicking something that is a non-issue actually. again i will understand you if pac took the bum route but he did not fight mosley because he fought miguel angel cotto.

 

so it shows how you are not so unbias at all and you are pulling this because of floyd. it's not hard to see this.

so you think floyd had a better resume than pac back in 2009?

 

How do you know he was shocked?

They did not tell him he couldn't fight. They let him fight anyway. They just told him he had to re-tape his hands.

So,

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instead of Williams and Martinez at JrMW for a title?


Cotto looked like a lost child against Clottey.


YES, many fans questioned why he avoided Shane and posted up video of Roach saying Shane was "to good" along with video interviews with Shane still requesting a fight with Pac. Many videos were put up. Even repeat videos of Margarito knocking Cotto out while Shane knocked out Margarito.

There was a big battle on another site

I think even Brian Kenny asked the question why not Shane Mosley along with others like Max Kellerman (who also said Pac dodged Shane).


Again, he took on the easier opponent...Post-Plastered Cotto instead of Shane "to good" Mosley who just won the WW Title by destroying the man that destroyed Cotto, Margarito.

 

NO, I'm doing it to show all sides of what goes on in boxing. That the two regarded best P4P fighters are both doing it yet the fans on each side are ripping the other while being blind to their own side.

I also think both these two are lucky there are more divisions and more belts to capture. And that if there was say, a Prime Tommy Hearns fighting now, with one belt, and he had it, that would be funny to see what Pac and Floyd would do. JrWW/140 would look very appealing I would think, for both. Not WW.

 

margarito was not on his right state of mind at the time. he was caught cheating and he's probabaly thinking about his future than concentrating for the fight. he knows he is done and a possible criminal case could be filed against him.

so people are up in arms then why pac picked cotto and not mosley? where are these people? pac-cotto was the biggest fight of 2009 and was highly anticipated because they knew how tough cotto is. even shane mosley himself admitted that pac never knew how good cotto is.

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nah, you seemed bias when you gave floyd a pass for fighting marquez and nitpicking pac's choice of hatton and cotto as opponent. you seem to gave floyd a pass regarding the circumstance yet you don't dig unto the circumstanes on why hatton and cotto are the most reasonable fight for pac back then.

 

and you seemed oblivious to the fact that pac-cotto was made just because cotto is with TR and was already being set-upped by arum as early as cotto-clottey when he invited pac to watch the fight at ringside.

if mosley was with top rank, we could have seen this fight instead of cotto. remember that pac's last 2 fights are with GBP prior to this and arum is not much happy that oscar will share again with his split with pac.

 

Hey guess what, Pac moved up to welter and within two years fought Cotto, CLottey, Hoya , Hatton and now he's gonna take on Margarito at junior middle .

Floyd had been at welter for over 5 years and just got to fighting a legit WW challenge in Mosley.

Take your stupid Floyd nuthugging **** elsewhere.

 

exactly. pac in just his 2nd year at the weight had already fought an elite fighter in cotto. floyd needed 5 years to fight one in shane mosley and a natural calamity was needed for this to happen.

 

11 of Pac's last 14 opponents are coming off a loss in one of their last 3 fights.

Floyd beats De La Hoya - Pac fights him, 9 pounds lower than where Floyd did.

Floyd KOs Hatton - Pac wants some of that now.

Margarito KO's Cotto brutally (most likely with plaster handwraps) - Pac wants some, but only at a catchweight.

Margarito gets KOed by Mosley - Pac ducks Mosley blatently because Roach says Mosley is too good. Floyd then easily UD's Mosley and Pac fights Margarito, for the 154 pound "title" at a catchweight of 150.

I find it funny how none of you *******s can even think of a refutation for this. Not that it matters. The facts speak for themselves. Pac only fights people who are coming off a recent loss. It's how Roach and Pac like to do business.

 

BIG DIFFERNCE:

JMM was a return bout after almost 2 years off. There was NO TITLE at stake.

Pac fought Hatton for a title and Cotto for a title. Pac was an active fighter.

Shane Mosley was more reasonable given his victory over Cotto's destroyer, Margarito.
So you can stick with that fight specifically since at least Hatton was still lineal title holder, but not Cotto.

 

atsch If he is good enough to have fought Cotto, why not Shane?

If Pac is good enough to fight for a JrMW title and people are willing to call him Champ, why not fight the best at 154 or even just allow the damn weight-limit.

Floyd called out Shane and Shane had other plans at the time. If it was a reason or an excuse, either one is possible.

Pac never fought Shane. Floyd did.

 

Hey, Guess what:
Cotto was KTFO before stepping in the ring with Pac.
Clottey was known to fold in big fights.
Hoya was dead at that weight. A weight he hadn't made in years.
Hatton was KTFO already by Floyd.

Williams wanted to fight Pac.
Shane wanted to fight Pac.

Post-KO"d version of Margarito without his plaster who doesn't deserve a title shot. Not when WILLIAMS and MARTINEZ are there, more established than Margarito, and are better at this point.

 

hey

"Probably" is the key word. You don't know for a fact what was going through his mind at that time.

They let him go one. If he felt that threatened, you would think they would have arrested him on the spot...like they would have had he had a knife going into the fight. Nobody really knew what exactly it was. They just knew it was foreign. That's why they tested it.


From what I gathered, Shane was the choice over Cotto. They accepted Cotto but still blasted Pac over his choice. Cotto only had a paper title and had been KO"d by Margarito already...all while Shane kept asking for a fight.

Cotto got the shot because....Bob Arum made it happen; Cotto had a paper title to add to Pac's resume, and Cotto was a Plaster victim.
Shane on the other hand, was coming off a destruction win over Margarito, the man that destroyed Cotto.


Oh, and neither Shane nor Margarito asked for a "catchweight" for Cotto. Pac did.

 

And yet Shane asked for the fight after he destroyed Margarito in January.

When did Cotto get his paper title and when did he fight Clottey and when did Pac vs. Cotto end up happening?

If Pac wanted the fight, he could have made it happen.

Pac wants the fight with Floyd, right?
Who is Floyd promoted by and who does Floyd not like?