Wlad is too stiff and one dimensional to beat a prime Tyson.

Tyson Vs WK = Tyson Vs Biggs

 

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Tall, powerful jab.

I did not say they were exactly the same.

And again, Wlad may not have the uppercut, but he has a hell of a hook.

 

Wlad KO7 Tyson

Wlad can perfectly execute the blueprint Douglas did to destroy absolute-peak Tyson, but Wlad is more skilled, much faster, stronger, taller, heavier, better conditioned and has way more power. :bbb:bbb

 

Tyson KO1, KO2????
Really?
I mean maybe he would beat Wlad, but KO1, KO2 is just ridiculous. Wlad is way above anyone who Tyson beat, and Tyson opponents managed to go a full distance with him, or were kayod late. Why be dumb about it?
I understand anyone who thinks Tyson beats Wlad, but KO1, KO2 is just a dumb statement.

 

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Thats what i was thinking.
Should have read the whole thread before posting my comment.

 

Yeah its so pathetic that most people have it as one of the best in HW historyatsch

Alos who would be on their ass? Is it Tyson or Wlad? Dont get it. :huh

 

oh ****..the Tyson nutjobs are out in full force again :nut

I wouldn't be surprised if Tyson won early but Wlad has a better chance here than many would like to think.

 

tyson wins this one ,remember wlad panics if anyone comes in fast at him he backs up with his arms out and will hold this will give him some success at stifling tyson but he has to punch and when he does his jab will miss and when he backs up with his hands held out infront of him trying to fend off tyson, tyson's lack of height will be his big advantage coupled with tyson's speed of course and tyson will bang the body then switch to the head tyson by 5th or 6th round ko

 

Except he forgot to mention all of them lost on points.

Biggs got broken down and knocked out because he came to win.

Tucker lost a wide UD. So did Smith who went into survival mode early. Tillis was Tyson's first fight that went the distance. Not only that, but the first fight Tyson went past 6 rounds. A fight in which Rooney actually said he was proud of Mike because of it. Tyson was still unsure about his stamina as a Pro. Amateur fights don't last that long.

Now his next fight, went the distance as well, against Mitch Green. HOwever, again, Green fought to survive which leaves less openings for someone like Tyson to counter. Also, Tyson this time around was much happier, more confident knowing he could go the distance. That's how fast Tyson learned and matured. Just 19 years old.

Sam Peter gave Wlad hell. Brewster knocked him out. So to say Tyson couldn't win is ridiculous.

For as much as people like to talk about Tyson needing things to go his way, the same is true with Wlad. He hides behind that Jab and is fortunate as well to not face off against certain opposition that came before his era.

Interesting fight anyway.

 

Wlad's Jab is great, agree with that. His short-left-hook is also solid and sneaky. However, the uppercut is really the one punch that Tyson is more susceptible to than anything.

Without going into the conditioning of Tyson for the Douglas fight, Douglas was more agile/athletic than Wlad. He was also able to throw a ton of punches without gassing although he did start to wear down a bit later in the fight. With Wlad, he needs to be able to control the fight with his Jab because if he has to throw more than the Jab, that's where he gets exposed with his stamina. That's why Emanuel had Wlad use that Jab more. It controls the flow of the fight and when you do that, it saves energy.
Also, just using the Jab leaves you less exposed to be countered.

The problem here is that Wlad would be fighting a smaller fighter that is very quick and has been specifically trained to cope with the Jab over the years.


Wlad still has to worry about taking chances because of his chin as well. Brewster caught him in that 3rd round of their first fight and I've always wondered, if that were Tyson in there, would Wlad have been taken out early.

Another great thing with Tyson back then, while trained with Rooney, was that his "timing" and "accuracy" were incredible. He was also able to pressure taller/bigger fighters back because of it. Adding in the combination attacks which included both targets to the head and body he threw and mixed them up.


Now if Tyson could put it all together...who the hell really knows. It is all a matter of opinion.

 

Jesse Ferguson match is one of his better fights for inside fighting. What he seemed to do as he went along fighting other opponents was to pick his shots more carefully, hitting the target when it was exposed instead of just trying to break through and waist more energy. Kind of like the Biggs fight where he picked his shots to the body well which took Tyrell's legs and stamina away.

 

Yeah, I remember Tucker rattled him with an uppercut in the first round of their fight. I think Bruno shook Tyson to his boots with a left hook as well but the uppercut was the one that always gave Tyson trouble. Even in the Lewis fight when he was way past it he gave a good account of himself in that first round until Lewis landed a few heavy uppercuts towards the end of the round. Tyson won the round but he looked discouraged by the end of it as I remember it.

WALDO doesn't have that in his arsenal, he also fights in a comfort zone and isn't used to lightening fast guys walking through the jab and unloading on him like prime Tyson would. Not a hard fight to pick, prime Tyson is a nightmare for most HW's but even more so for WALDO. Tyson by KO inside 3 rounds.

 

Tyson wasnt beaten by a great jabber, his head movement nulified jabs and he moved to the inside where only a few sluggers can beat him.

Also Wladimir chin wont hold up if a prime Tyson landed flush Wladimir would look something like:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J51tf5myk0[/ame]

 

Yep....anyone that says Douglas beat him just by jabbing him to death obviously hasn't watched the fight. Could WALDO cope with the kind of pressure prime Tyson puts on an opponent....I'm convinced he couldn't considering the evidence we have whenever he's been clocked in the past. Once Tyson got a man on the hook it was all over.