How can anyone rate Mayweather's win over Marquez?

Firstly, I did NOT pick Mayweather. What I said I was

That's not picking Mayweather.

I have refrained from making a pick on this bout till I know for sure it's a go.


Normally, I would pick Floyd. But I picked Oscar, Hatton and Cotto, each time a little more tentatively that the previous time. And each time Pac improved and proved me wrong. I finally picked Pac over Clottey (though somewhat nervously).

Floyd is on a whole different level, so I hesitate to pick against him.


That said, the evidence is clear that Floyd fears Pac. Otherwise, he would have signed for the biggest fight of his career.

As a man with legal training, you should recognize the folly in being "100% positive " as to what's in another man's mind.

He's not. That is patently obvious.

The evidence doesn't support this viewpoint, counsellor.

 

:deal

 

Why would even hesitate to pick Pacquiao in this fight if Mayweather is scared of him?

There's a huge gap in logic there. Your premises simply aren't strong enough to support your conclusion.

As a person with common sense, you should know my statement way hyperbolic in nature. Clearly I don't know what exactly is going on Mayweather's head. My statement was meant to convey that I'm pretty confident in my opinion on the matter.

No it's not. However, I can't blame you for coming to that conclusion.

Actually it does.

 

Good win but not one of his top.

 

I believe I've already explained why.

Besides, Floyd being scared of Pac does not ensure a Pac victory. You should know that.

I believe you're wrong, there. While not absolutely conclusive, the evidence is sufficient.

If not beyond a reasonable doubt, then certainly on a 'balance-of-probabilities', basis.

The 'hyperbole' might wash, if you hadn't used the qualifier in the same post.

I'll take that as vindication.

No, it still doesn't. We'll leave that one for the jury.

 

Not this clown again. Go away kid, grown ups are talking.

 

:good

 

even on nights when he hits the unofficial scales, floyd's never been close to 160. He came in @ 150 against oscar.

Floyd did have the advantages in that fight, so it's not a great win, but a decent one. That fight was for one reason imo, to make a comparison, since pac fought floyd's left overs to make a comparison to floyd. That's why i keep telling people this fight will happen. It's been set up for a few years now & it will happen in 11.

 

As far as I'm concerned, the fact that Mayweather can use Marquez as a tune-up and whitewash him on the scorecards speaks volumes about his level of ability. He's operating on another level completely.

 

exactly. People keep saying "Floyd didn't use his size on Marquez, he used his skill" but the fact is that its alot easier to outbox someone who is alot smaller and weaker than you.

Strength and size play a big factor in overcoming a boxer who is constantly on the backfoot and JMM was at a huge disadvantage regarding those two assets.

If all I need to do is land a light jab to keep my opponent off me and off balance, then outboxing him just became a whole lot easier.

 

I have tremendous respect for JMM and I think beating him is something any fighter should look at as an achievement. In reference to weights, the bottom line is the man took the fight, he accepted the provision in the contract that was made and Mayweather paid the penalty. Beyond that, if Floyd had came in 5-10 lbs. lighter the result would have been no different. He completely dominated a proud and deserving champion, period. What's the difference in PBF vs. JMM and the weight difference and those pushing for PBF to go up and fight Martinez? Going up in weight is a part of boxing, many men have done it, JMM came up short against a better fighter end of story.

 

Well-reasoned post.

 

no matter if you like floyd or not...

he didn't beat marquez by over powering him like any body else at 147 would do... shane/cotto/margarito

he beat him with skill... which basically means regardless of the weight floyd would have beaten marquez the same way

marquez punched floyd 7% out of 100% of his punches... the weight of the fight would not change this... if anything things would be worse for marquez because floyd is faster at lower wegihts