Pacman to test

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  1. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just because they didn't test 18 days prior to the fight does not make them lose power. The fighters did not know they were going to stop testing 18 days prior. The test being random gave them all the power.

    Again the blood testing isn't just about taking as much blood as they can from fighters. Its the fact that they can be tested at any time how ever times they want. Again even if they did no test they still will hold power over the fighters because the fighters will not know when they are coming or how many times and would have to assume they are coming every day.
     
  2. Concrete

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    Just because they stopped 18 days for the Mosley - Mayweather fight doesn't mean they are going to use the same exact scheduling for every single fight.

    The next fight they could easily test less but test later. Next fight they do they could do 5 test and have 2 of them withing the 18 day time frame if they wanted.
     
  3. The_President

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    Shut Da Fukk Up, ya Fukkin Newbie! :|:|
     
  4. charlievint

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    All that said......:roll:.... Floyd's the one who's catching the "bad wrap" here, not PAC. Sure you blame Manny and that's your business, but the vast majority see what's real and thanks to Floyd he was the driving force behind clearing up the picture. When your actions contradict your mouth and you begin actin completely out of character it doesn't leave much to the imagination. It is what it is.
     
  5. ciscobox

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    yeah i got you. so there's no standard procedures.
    how did you know that? have you been tested before?
    so usada is all about the element of surprise. cool.
     
  6. charlievint

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    A cutoff date has NOTHING to do with the word "RANDOM". There's ALWAYS a cutoff date!:patsch It could have been Nov 13th or March 13th if the USADA and Floyd had their way, but it wasn't all about "their way". Manny had his say and based on his history doesn't like Blood taken from him close to one of his fights. Actually he doesn't like Blood taken from him at all. He feels weakened which is nothing new or uncommon.

    Random blood testing can still occur with a 30 day cutoff, 24, 14, 5 or cutoff is the actual day of the fight or right before they step foot in the ring.

    Regardless of when they decide the last test could be administered the "random" element is still present.
     
  7. The_President

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    ^ Exactly, which is why Manny is AFRAID to take ANY drug testing which draws blood, or commit to any drug testing up to the night of the fight, PERIOD.

    The Ratman is a cheater and only completely agreeing to random testing will clear his dirty little name. Otherwise, the dude goes in the record books as a PED addicted freak.
     
  8. Concrete

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    element of surprise, and blood testing. Some people don't think its necessary only because Pac don't wanna do it.

    I think for a fight of that magnitude why not. There is no downside to having blood samples as well as urine samples compared to just urine samples. You never know what new discoveries people may find. Even if it doesn't pertain to steroids or cheating.

    They both have to go through the same testing. There is no justification to not do it.
     
  9. Concrete

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    The problem is the fighters will know when the cut off date is. Then after the cut off date they can do whatever they wanted.
     
  10. what does mayweather have to do with pacquiao refusing cotto's request?
     
  11. Don Q

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    Is that Nazim's face when Floyd destroyed his boy Shane?
     
  12. El Intocable

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    Dont know and dont care.
     
  13. jerryrard

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    agree ... Only to a *****.
    The rest of the world know that it's just Floyd's methods to duck.
     
  14. charlievint

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    :lol: Homie.....you are a clown! I hope you don't take any offense as you probably hear that a lot.

    There are a few that actually believe Manny is on some ****.....but best believe MOST and the STRONG MAJORITY don't buy any of that bull**** that Floyd and his team made up.

    There's so many more people relevant to boxing who don't think for one second Manny is doping or on roids or even the mysterious "A Side". No....the "Majority" see that the allegations began, interestingly enough with Floyd. The only other person who stands to gain "STUPID AMOUNTS OF ENDS".

    So the question any simple mother****er would be able to come up with should be, "WHY" , why would anyone risk ****ing up that kind of paper all out the blue by claiming his "other half" in making this money, Manny PAC was a cheat....an "A Side of Meff" repository who for years has been bullet proof in the ring.:rofl

    Most were calling for evidence and proof or a source to support his claims but instead everyone got Olympic style blood testing demands to some how validate his own baselss accusations.:lol: I mean.....that's some real backwards type **** righ there....and Floyd has never operated "backwards" in the past.

    He's never once single handidly **** up a pretty unobscured path to his BIGEEST payday ever against a guy he has consistantly dismissed as overhyped and not on his level. That goes against all that embodies the whole "MONEY" persona.

    Floyd has never felt the need to directly or indirectly give his opponent props like he has with Manny. Nor has he ever needed to request Olympic style tests except for the same guy he's giving EVERYONE mixed signals about....Manny.

    If Manny is hype, not on your level and someone Floyd feels he would have no problems beating....why the allegations and why the demands? Especially when it's between $40 to $70 mill on the line! Floyd actin out of character is BIG becuase it's as clear as day. Floyd if nothing else is giving off the appearance that he doesn't want to fight Manny. Whether or not that is acutally the case only Floyd knows 100%. But if it looks, walks, talks, smells and acts like a "DUCK".....I'm inclined to call like I see it.
     
  15. bust3r

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