How can anyone rate Mayweather's win over Marquez?

Going up in weight is part of boxing if you plan to stay in that weight for a while, and not just for one fight to cash in. Marquez should stay 135.
0 props to Floyd for this fight. Negative 10 for cheating on the scales.

 

Many men have done it, but to varying effect. Not everyone is Pacquiao or Mayweather. Most can't go up more than two weight classes without a significant drop in quality. Marquez didn't look good going up in weight. He is still a great fighter, he just doesn't belong at 140...

Hell look at Hatton! Hatton was a great Jr. Welter Weight fighter, but he looked like crap every time he moved up to Welter. Some people just can't make the transition...

 

****ing funny how in this instance *****s are disregarding the weight difference over the agreed catchweight, plus the fact that it's a whooping two division jump. Right it won't make a difference. While they're up in arms over Cotto going under 2 pounds from his last fight when he faced Pac.

 

Well he didn't have a chance, but not because he came up in weight necessarily, but because he was outclassed. I have expressed my respect for JMM, but he was beaten by the clearly better fighter. I understand the value of weight and the potential effects both positive and negative on fighters, but in this case it wouldn't matter what weight they faught, PBF demonstrated he was clearly the better boxer. If they went down 10 lbs, you think it would have changed anything? I don't, I see no reason to believe that regardless of weight class, the obviously better fighter won.

 

i voted decent because that is how i saw it, it was a great performance against a man who, with hindsight, wasnt adept at that weight class.

i mean that left hook floyd threw which dropped marquez, that was a beautiful shot, some of hid right hands where perfectly timed, it was a great performance, but only a decent win.

it dont make his top ten list IMO.

at the time i remember thinking that he shouldnt receive to much shiot providing his next fight was williams, mosley or pac. he was coming off a long layoff so i understand not taking a huge risk. he then fought mosley as the public demanded so i got no problems with it, but you cant rate it any higher than it was.

the truth as i see it, is marquez wasnt good enough at that weight, yes duran and mosley and others made the jump, but they are remembered as absolute legends, and i doubt marquez will make that cut. pac made the jump successfully and marquez couldnt, he got no place above 135 if he is against a p4p contender, this is why talk or a rematch with pacman is disgusting.

lets say the fight happens at 147, well we saw how floyd dominated him. lets say it happens at 140, we saw how sluggish he looked at 142, so 2 pounds lighter vs the best fighter in the world, well that would be a mismatch also imo.

his best bet imo is vs khan, cos he has the timing and power to put him to sleep, doing that would make him a 4 weight champion and would be a good way to end a very good career.

 

I've had plenty of disscussions with that guy. I have a good idea about his rooting interests. I'm not making blind assumptions like you're doing here. And how the hell did I slander him? I don't even know why you even decided to involve yourself in our converstation.

 

First off, you clearly have no understanding of what slander actually is. Second, what exactly is your problem? I was having a civilized converstation with that guy. Why do you deem it neccesary to interject with your ignorance? If you want to have a civilized discussion with me, that's fine. However, if you just want to show off how ignorant and childesh you can be, I'm not interested. I don't have time for anymore of these pointless back and forths with you.

 

Incorrect. The implication was that his personal bias was skewing his viewpoint on the matter.

This isn't your website so you couldn't possibly own any threads in here.

You don't even know what slander is. You might want to look it up. You also have very little context as to the nature of the conversation I was having, and you have very little knowledge of the history I have with that poster. Quite simply put, you were, and still are, in no position to make the comments that you did in regards to that conversation.

The only person crying is you. That's all you do. Just look at this thread, you're crying because you're claiming that I slandered another poster.:rofl You're intervention? Please tell me this is a joke.

 

The fact that people think jmm would get beat by khan at 140 says enough on what jam's chances were at 146 vs floyd. I think jmm ko's khan though, man is chinny n jmm can punch n land.

 

How does Khan beat Marquez when his chin can't take a soft jab? Khan goes out on his back in that fight.

 

Wow... never seen anyone remain so respectful in the face of blind disrespect. Bravo sir