Hitman v Pacman

bambamz · Aug 3, 2010

Fun thread to read..

btw did that PacDBest got banned?

Totomabs · Aug 3, 2010

brooklyn1550 said: ↑

Hatton is MUCH stronger than Pacquiao. At 140, Pacquiao's speed and power (the two things that make him great) would see a sharp decrease. Hatton would make Pacquiao fight off the backfoot, which in turn, would take Pacquiao out of his comfort zone. Pacquiao has speed, but Hatton is fast at 140. He wouldn't get countered coming in like he did against Collazo or Mayweather. And in close quarters, he would muscle Pacquiao around, position him for his body shots, and bust him up.

Manny doesn't have much of a chance at all against Mayweather, De La Hoya, Hatton, or Cotto.
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one more and he completely makes himself a total idiot. :nut

Marcelo · Aug 3, 2010

Totomabs said: ↑

one more and he completely makes himself a total idiot. :nut
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That's why they're not here anymore. It's so embarrasing!!!

Totomabs · Aug 3, 2010

Marcelo said: ↑

LOok at this Self Proclaimed expert?? He's 0-3 with DLH, hatton and Cotto. Then the last one got chickened out!!!

Cmon Floyd!!! Give this guy a Chance to make one Right Prediction!!! He's an expert, You can win Floyd!! It will be easy according to this expert!! Pacdbest is not Perfect, He can make mistake. Dont be scared Floyd!!!
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:thumbsup

Totomabs · Aug 3, 2010

bambamz said: ↑

Fun thread to read..

btw did that PacDBest got banned?
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one thing i know of that esb lagend is that...

PacD's the guy that's owned sooooooo damn many posters here on esb.

timeout · Aug 3, 2010

LoL PACDBEST legend!!
He sure owned some mofos on this board!

Marcelo · Aug 3, 2010

PacDbest said: ↑

Did the 130 lbs Pac look bloated at 144 lbs whenever he went up in the ring??? Floyd rehydrates only to 136 when he was fighting at 130. Pac used to rehydrates to 136 when was at 122. A 140 pounder Pac would be rehyrating to about 147-150 lbs., same as Floyds. The same Floyd who KO Hatton.

Hatton vs Pac will be a year away, Pac will fight at 135 first, his Body mass will be more comportable with the Higher weight. He can just concentrate on his technique without Dieting. We know how Pac works out in training, those extra Protein he's going to intake will translate to more Power. And I can't wait to see how Powerful that 140 pounder Pac would be.
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Pacd Knows the science of Right Nutrition!! He expected all this Power from Pac at the higher weights. It's not steroids idiots!!! It's healthy Diet works for Pac.

Pyong Chun · Aug 3, 2010

they will bring steroids again...wait for them

el mosquito · Aug 3, 2010

pacdbest didn't make sense before but when all was said and done, he was so ****en accurate with his predictions its actually scary

Marcelo · Aug 3, 2010

kg0208 said: ↑

I have no need to twist the truth when I can simply exploit what you have previously said. You cannot record most of the fighters you make predictions on because they are not on TV. This is a simple fact. Not to mention, you have no idea how much others can or cannot afford, and therefore would never have made such a suggestion under those circumstances. On the contrary, you have said numerous times how you have gone to youtube to watch fighters and use it as a tool. On to more pressing matters.

Your analysis falls short, as does Chert's. Let me quote his as well as yours.

Hatton has no lack of hand and footspeed. As a matter of fact, his footspeed and ability to close the gap quickly was one of the reasons he was competitive early on with Mayweather. Others will confirm this, as Hatton is actually quite quick on his feet. His downfall is his ability to infight effectively when being smothered, which is what PBF did to him, something Pacquiao has shown no proficiency at. Pacquiao has never shown the ability to box from the outside for any length of time, as he usually comes straight forward, has little side movement and thus will be in close quarters with Hatton. He relies on his explosiveness to push others back and give him the room he needs to operate. I don't know why some feel the need to add extra qualities to Pacquiao's arsenal that do not exist. He is a come forward fighter who cannot fight at all off his back foot. His power has already started to diminish as he has gone up, and at 140, Hatton will see his punches coming and certainly smother him.

PacD has wrongly surmised that if PBF can hurt Hatton (believing PBF to be "featherfisted", his 25 ko's somehow earning him that reputation in his eyes) that an unproven Pacquiao at 140lbs can, though he has never fought over 130. This is a horrible leap in logic, as PBF has good power against fighters his own size AND didn't hurt Hatton with his power, but his speed and accuracy and TIMING. He hurt Hatton with a punch he didn't see coming,
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past it, he still certainly hit hard.

Now onto the silly notion that Hatton's short arms will somehow aid Pacquiao. Hatton was unbeaten before facing Mayweather. In nearly every fight he has had, (all that I can find) he was at a disadvantage in reach. It does not hinder him because of his style.
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Mayweather exploited it with skills that Pacquiao doesn't possess. Hatton's lack of a jab is not a hinderance in his style when facing someone like Pacquiao, but when facing someone who moves around the ring. It's not relevant here, whether you believe it or not. And Pacquiao gets hit as much as Hatton does. This will come down to who can take more punishment, because both will dish it out. Pacquaio will wilt very fast when he realizes that the strength disparity and that he will not be able to get his shots off against Hatton like he wishes. He does not set up his shots like Mayweather.

PacD, you need to learn to analyze styles instead of just physical attributes. And stop using that template of whomever fights the most like Pacquiao (Ie , Power and speed, with good straight punches) is going to win. This led to your misreading of the Soto-Guzman fight. Styles change things, not to mention, you are merely guessing at Pacquaio's ability at 140, and taking the word of his trainer on an exxageration of his power....
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Here's another self proclaimed expert!!! Where is he now?? I guess these expert acts like Floyd too. Got Chickened out and gone hiding!!

Marcelo · Aug 3, 2010

bambamz said: ↑

Fun thread to read..

btw did that PacDBest got banned?
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Ask the administrator. No explanation whatsoever.

blur · Aug 3, 2010

i bet these guys who picked hatton changed their accounts to escape the embarrassment!

Marcelo · Aug 3, 2010

blur said: ↑

i bet these guys who picked hatton changed their accounts to escape the embarrassment!
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very few of them were still active.

Totomabs · Aug 3, 2010

blur said: ↑

i bet these guys who picked hatton changed their accounts to escape the embarrassment!
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:yep they're still here you know...

DonBoxer · Aug 3, 2010

Hatton wins KO/TKO 5-8

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