Lennox Lewis would always have brutalized Tyson.

lewis and his iron chin....

 

Lewis grew on me, I accept he is an ATG almost reluctantly. He qualifys with hindsight only. at the time I expected him to get found out. when he did he got revenge so you have to take your hat off to him. As His resume stands he beat all the best of his era so he qualifys. That said I always felt he was fortunate that he did not fight more guys who could exploit the 1minute break he always needed per round.

Tyson has his faults too. he would get frustrated and never realy adapted his pace as he got older. Tyson never got over losing his "youth speed".

Like joe louis tyson was only initialy exposed by a beter gameplan because hed progresed far too easily and had less experience in "competative fights" to call on. unlike Louis tyson never quite regained focus again then had an enforced exile.

That said, Tyson was basicly was a 2 round fighter at world level when he fought Lewis. pre 90' tyson was a 12 round fighter. Lewis was NEVER a true 12 round fighter.

I think tyson showed in the first round in the fight he did have with lennox lewis that he would have won at his 86-90 peak. he could not keep it up at that time since he never adapted.

so no, lewis did not always have what it took to beat Tyson IMO.

 

For people saying Tyson's first round against Lennox shows that he could beat Lennox in his prime, we also have to remember that he was 37 in his second to last fight ever. Since neither were prime for their fight, not much can really be definitively found from it. Tyson fans look at that first round, his experience with other rangy fighters in the 80s, and say that he would win. Everyone looks at Lennox, the reach, the boxing talent, their early sparring experiences, and say he would win.

Their primes, however, were a decade apart, imo (86-89 vs 96-00). So obviously there was never a chance for the prime versions to meet up, though having them meet up in the 90s when Tyson still had more of his speed would have helped to answer more questions.

 

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I go back and forth on this match.

I dont think a wise man would bet a lot of money either way.

 

I agree.

 

This is a pretty silly thread, not just because I disagree with Lewis beating Tyson but because the manner in which its presented leads me to question the motives of the thread starter.

The first round of their actual fight denotes to things.

1. Tyson can be competitive with Lewis and it is by no means a whitewash.

2. Lewis's respect for Tyson is enormous.

Those 2 factors give Tyson a compelling shot.

Tyson at 36 considering his style and size was old.....
As for Lewis being 37?

Well take a look at who Lewis was fighting and his frequency of fights from 2000-2002.
2nd Take a look at Mike Tyson and his frequency and level of competition during the same time period.

It makes a difference.

This isn't an easy fight for either fighter involved.

 

Listen, to say Lennox Lewis would have always BRUTALIZED Mike Tyson is just ****ing daft!

Tyson weighed 234lbs for Lewis in 2002. For Bruno 2 in March 1996, he weighed 220lbs & was rock solid! To say he was in better shape for Lewis goes against logic! Simply, Tyson was a stone or slightly more over his best fighting weight!

Prime Mike Tyson would have beaten ANY version of Lewis! Lewis was never at any time in his career, as gifted & talented as what a peak Tyson was!

The size issue only matter if your intimidated - Tyson mostly fought guys bigger than himself. Tyson would have been on him early doors! He was almost certainly draw Lewis into a slugfest, & Tyson hits just as hard but sharper, throws more shots, is more accurate & has a better chin!

 

Im so tired of hearing this **** about tyson, what was he 23 in 89?

tyson was in his prime when fighting buster douglas in 1990. if buster douglas could beat prime tyson you would have to give an edge to lewis in this matchup.

yes, I believe lewis at his best beats tyson at his best.

 

So you're trying to say that some builder of 250lbs hits harder than Tyson?

 

oh good, this thread is funny. Thanks for the laughs

 

im not as certainn as you that peak lewis had the engine, combinations, feints and pace to duplicate Tokyo Douglas's performance. It was a more thorough job than evander managed agaisnt an inferior Tyson years later. and lewis had more trouble with holyfeild than hed like to let on.

Lewis grew on me but at his peak he always needed room, time and most importantly to control the pace. feisty pacey types always troubled him. Tyson was that kind of fighter with power. as was his sparring partner mcall.

Lewis did not have the feet to time the speed of peak Tyson. lewis could box well but he was an unusual blend of foreman like power with long boxing skills. The downside like most true super heavy powerhouses was he did not have good wind. This was why he never compleatly dominated anyone over the long distance, since he had to give away so many rounds to pace himself. what hapens when he takes a round off with Tyson? he would need 3 full minute rounds to keep Tyson off him and lewis never did the 3 full minutes. Ever.

 

you speak the truth.

I wont say lewis automaticaly has this fight in the bag, but I can see lewis keeping tyson at bay with a hard jab and powerful right hand.

I heard lewis gave tyson problems in sparring, then late in their careers (2002) they fought and lewis gave tyson a beating. looking at these events as indicators combined with prime tyson's beatdown at the hands of buster douglas, evidence suggests a favorable outcome for lewis.

 

That's shitty logic right there, you're highlighting he was physically prime (capable of reaching 100% physically, which he didn't anyway due to having to Crash Diet during training to get from 250lbs party-weight to 220lbs in the 2 weeks before the fight) and thus I assume you believe he was at his best/peak. Lewis was in his prime at 29 in 1994 when McCall beat him and guess who beat McCall in 1989, yes; Buster Douglas! Using your same logic, I can now say that's a reason to give Tyson the edge. However I won't use your moronic logic, just as Tyson was badly prepared and no longer peak becuase he lacked trainer Rooney in 1990, Lewis was not yet at his peak, becuase he lacked trainer Steward in 1994. Prime means little, proximity to peak is the greatest measurement of how close a fighter is to their best, both were not even close to their peaks in 1990 & 1994 respectively, despite both being "prime".

 

Tyson?.....Iron chin?...did I miss something???