Hype Job or Real Deal

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  1. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    IMO.

    Hatton = Hype Job that went a long way.
    Cotto = Real deal that took on all challenges.
    Margarito = Real deal but now in doubt, can redeem himself.
    Berto = Hype Job only a matter of time.
    Angulo = Real deal.
    Alvarez = Real deal.
    Cintron = Hype Job cooch.
    Pavlik = Hype Job.
    Pacquiao = Real deal but would like to see him fight top welters that are not big names.
    Floyd = Anything below 140lbs. real deal. 147 Lbs. and up self promoted Hype Job.
    Kirkland = Hate to say it but........ Hype Job.
    JCC Jr. = Hype JOB.
    Bradley = Real Deal.
    Khan = Real Deal.
    Juan Ma. = Bout to be Hype Job.
    Gamboa = Real Deal.



    What bout you guys? Have more Names but it would be endless.
     
  2. Khan is not the real deal. If he is, why wont he get in ring with good boxers? Other than that, i like your list.
     
  3. Reuben

    Reuben L.A.M.B Full Member

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  4. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not bad!
    U missed out on Jacob ? = real deal! Lol
    pirog? Real ****!
    Haye? Hype job but has potential
    Adamek? Real ****!
    Dawson? Real ****!
    Pascal? Real ****!
    Direll? Hyper hype job
    Ward? Hype job!

    Martinez? Real shot!
    JMM? Real ****!
     
  5. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    Maybe because he's 23 and is still green?

    And don't bring up Alexander. Different people mature quicker than others.
     
  6. El Intocable

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    Hatton = Was overrated and now is becoming underrated . Cotto = Credit to the sport(Real Deal). Margarito = Cheater. Berto = Def an hype job .Angulo = Very good puncher but will get showned up when he faces a top boxer. Alvarez = Too soon to tell. Cintron = Hype Job quitter. Pavlik = Good exciting fighter but i wouldnt call him the real deal .Pacquiao = Fighter of the decade and best in the world today,Real Deal .Floyd = Coward .Kirkland = Hype Job. JCC Jr. = Hype JOB. Bradley = looks like the real deal but needs to man up and face Devon. Khan = Still has a lot of questions to be answered but looks to be on the right path,still early to say. Juan Ma = Good fighter a fight with Gamboa or Caba would show us if hes for real .Gamboa = In terms of talent hes the real deal but hes still untested.
     
  7. If i honestly thought that he was just green, then i would say it. But i don't. He can have a good career and make good money if he's managed correctly, but he'll never be good. You really need a solid chin to be considered good. He's record's not very good at all. Im sure Barrera would have knocked him out if they hadnt screwed him.
     
  8. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's a moronic question. They're either brilliant or they're crap is what you're saying. You should have more respect for people who actually have the bollocks to lace them up.
     
  9. LocoRoco

    LocoRoco ★★★★★ Full Member

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    how was hatton a hype job??? i understand he may now be in some peoples opinions quite overrated but hype job??? wtf???
     
  10. LocoRoco

    LocoRoco ★★★★★ Full Member

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    post of the week
     
  11. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    So you think he's got nothing else to learn and is the finished article? :huh

    And you don't think he's a GOOD fighter? :huh Come on, that's a bit harsh even when criticising. He is definetly a GOOD fighter.

    So you're saying a guy like Devon Alexander has a much better record? Khan's record is pretty good if you ask me when it comes to 'padding' a record. He's ahead of Calz and Hatton in that area.

    And come on man, Barrera was done. Even without the cut you could see the speed differential in Khan. He was using his height and reach to his full advantage.
     
  12. I dont think he means it literally. He s just trying to say that his promoters and supporters make him out to be better than he really is. It happens a lot in boxing, dont u think?
     
  13. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Your list is woefully flawed. You're not even trying to be consistent. There seems to be no real rhyme or reason for your choices.You have Angulo as the real deal and Cintron as a hypejob even thought Cintron beat Angulo. So Angulo has beaten nothin but stiffs and lost to a guy you describe as a hype job yet somehow he's the real deal. JuanMa is a hypejob and Gamboa is the real deal despite JuanMa being the much more accomplished fighter. Somehow Berto is a hypejob and Khan is the real deal despite Berto being undefeated against better comp. Khan was actually knocked out in under a minute by a C level fighter. You describe Hatton as a hype job that went a long way which is almost completely contradictary. You have Mayweather listed as a hypejob which is completely ridiculous. Somehow Kirkland is a hypejob and not the real deal like Angulo even though Kirkland has face similar opposition, is undefeated, and beat Julio a lot worse than Angulo did.

    If you're going to come up with a list like this, you need to set a criteria and stick to it. Otherwise, your list becomes a joke.
     
  14. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    These lists are impossible. You can't call someone a "hype job" or "real deal" because there is no way to prove it. I think Hatton was the best 140lber since Tszyu, and still is, so wasn't a hype job, despite the losses. You'd say he was exposed at the top. True, but it's ignorant of what else he did.

    A prime example for me, would be Alexander. Many people will say I underrate him, I think they overrate him. Neither of us are right, so how could anyone say who or who isn't overrated?

    Aside from that, there's no consistency.
     
  15. Yeah, it is a bit harsh. Technically he's very good. He's fast and he moves well, but i just dont think he can get very far with that chin. Prescott hit him a jab and he was hurt. Thats ridiculous. I call a boxer "good" when he gets in the ring with someone who's considered better than him and he beats him or performs very well. In boxing, you have to compare your talent to that of your peers by stepping into the ring with them. You can't just claim youre good, you need to prove it or you become a hype job. I wont respect him as a boxer until he beats a few prime fighters who really pose a threat. How can he be considered good? Who has he beaten? I would say he has potential if i thought he did but his beard is a very big handicap in my opinion. Maybe im wrong though. We'll see.