How can anyone rate Mayweather's win over Marquez?

Wow popkins, you really went all out on that one.

angel ****ing manfredy

 

Give me any other fighter who had twenty three wins in a row against people like Gatti, Paez, Diaz and took Spadafora close. Manfredy represents a solid win and a guy who up until Mayweather, had been beating world level fighters with ease. Problem is, you kiddies and your boxrec don't actually know the fighters and who they fought, how they fought and how they won because none of you watched the actual ****ing fights - Boxrec doesn't tell you anything if you don't know the fighters, something time and time again is exposed when people discuss Super MW.

But yes, let's say he's not a good win and let's try to paint De La Hoya who for all intents and purposes had not won a meaningful fight in over 5 years as a better win.

He's as good of a win for Mayweather as anyone (except Mosley and Hatton) at WW.

 

Are you accusing me of being a boxrec warrior? Because i'm really not like that. at all. Could you stop being a condescending douchebag for a minute, please? I'm not saying either a prime chop chop or manfredy are tomato cans, but in terms of relevance in terms of wins how can they compare to someone like Oscar, who sparked Mayorga less than a year before the PBF fight? Or had schooled Mosley in 03? Jeez.

 

Yes, let's ignore the fact that the fighters he fought you mentioned were a complete class below the guys he was beating at 130 and 135. Let's try revise history and indicate his earlier competition was better than his later competition and that's why his performances were cleaner.

His best performance was against Pacquaio at? You guessed it, 135 - he deserved to win that fight and it was a robbery that he didn't.

PS, dickhead - Mosley vs Hoya 2 happened 7 years ago.

 

Yes, I am - because you're trying to make out as if a win against De La Hoya was far more impressive when the guy was past prime, than it was against a prime Manfredy who as I mentioned, beat some very talented fighters at the weight class we're talking about.

You're bringing up Mayorga? Who for all intents and purposes is a worser weaker version of Gatti (who Manfredy beat)? This being a past his best Mayorga too?

Like I said, I consider anyone who considers either Chop Chop or Manfredy to be easy opposition at 130-135lbs, solely due to the fact that the way they were fighting and who they were beating before they met Floyd needs to be understood. If you didn't see those fights, you wouldn't have a clue.

To take your further point about ODLH vs Mosley

You know, Roy Jones Jr was schooling people in 2003 too, let's consider Danny Green the greatest fighter of all time for the one round KO against him.

 

I never said Mayorga or Oscar were in their respective primes. I AM saying that Mayweather's move up to fight an experienced ATG in Oscar, at a weight he had never been at, in the one-sided fashion that he did, is more impressive than his wins over Chop Chop and Angel Manfredy. To me. And I wouldn't be the only one.

I don't particularly rate Manfredy highly for wins over former champions and stopping a limited but of course powerful fighter in Gatti. I don't rate Chop Chop highly either(especially since Floyd gave him a shot RIGHT after his Judah fight), who never stepped up to beat truly great comp when he had the chance and opportunity. And I wouldn't be the only one.

 

Sorry but again I go back to the point about Jones Jr - yes he's an ATG but the version that Danny Green beat isn't the version that was the ATG.

The version that Floyd struggled with at 154 was not an ATG De la Hoya. That's one win I give him very little credit for and give Pacquaio even less, it was simply capitalising on the name De La Hoya built during the 90s.

And like I say, you'd be one of the very few who consider the opposition at 140-147 for Floyd to be better than the opposition at 130-135. In fact, you'd be a damn right minority.

 

WTF are you smoking, Popkins?

Marquez being DOMINANT against fighters that aren't actually that good or winning against GREAT fighters in decent performances, what do you think is the better win?

Oh wait, you can't actually ****ing think. Again with the attempted break down and quoting out of context to try and make you think you had a point.

Gatti and Paez were ten times the fighter that JLC (at the time) or Laczano was. Kosta Tyszu never fought a fight again, tells you where he was at in his career and we all know about Collazo and how he should have got the decision against Hatton at 147.

Yes, let's use Boxrec rather than the actual fights, cause that always works. Moron.

 

I do consider them to be better than Floyd's 130 comp. I think the 130-5 version of Floyd is in some ways a better fighter than the 147 Floyd of today, but the level of challenges is in some way better. His domination of Gatti was an impressive clinic as far as that goes(even if I really don't think much of Gatti as a complete fighter). The judah fight is one of my favorites of his to watch, simply because I thought Judah gave him a lot of issues and he resolved them with a maturity you only see in the best fighters. The hatton fight was of course a genuine whooping. So yeah, apart from JLC I I like Floyd's 140-7 fights a lot more. And the fighters he fought there more.

That wasn't the best Oscar we've seen, but the best Oscar we've seen was a long way past. He did give a solid performance though, he was a live dog unlike the Pac fight where he just got beat up.