James Kirkland VS Manny Pacquiao at 154 who wins and why??

Yes, he'd come out throwing punches for sure, but from what I've seen of him anyway, they're terribly predictable. Yes, he throws a lot, and yes he throws fast, but Pac's feet are twice as fast and so are his hands, imo.

What I meant by bringing up Hatton was just that if he comes in winging punches, he's gonna get caught, and badly, and often.

 

"running"? That's not really in PAC's DNA. He'll be moving, shifting, darting in and out, left to right...Like he normally does but he'll be doing it more given the size, power and strength disadvantage he'd be at.

Manny rarely EVER sits down on his shots...he's always bouncing on his toes and most of the time he's fighting on the inside. Manny isn't a pure boxer but he has the skill set which he's shown in all his fights at one point or anther.

Josh landed less than 35% of his punches and that's not a lot considering how in active he was. And Manny actually baited Josh to open up b/c he was so frustrated Josh was in a shell 99% of the fight. I don't think Manny had a problem eating some leather in order to get Josh to open up so PAC could counter. I think it worked at the end of the day.

Anything can happen and James could get lucky. But Boxing is less to do with luck and more to do with who is the better fighter.

 

This is ridiculous.

Kirkland is a big guy, but he is slow as **** and plodding with no defence, throws terribly telegraphed punches and doesn't have ring generalship.

At best, he loses in the same style ODLH did.

 

When did Pac get counter-punching skills and become a good boxer?

 

For the record, I'm not trying to discredit Manny, he's a great fighter, but I just think Kirkland is "too much" in terms of size and strength and while there is no question Manny is the more skilled fighter and the better fighter, I just see this as being beyond his threshold in terms of size and strenght.

 

Pac man is too fast, plus Kirkland's defense is not that good. Pac would beat the crap out of him.

 

Pacman KO. He's just way too fast for Kirkland, who has no defense. Pacman will dart in and out, side to side and just pick him apart. Of course, given the huge size difference, you can never discount a Kirkland win. But i'll go with Pacman's speed and superior skills.

 

Pacquiao by knockout. Kirkland doesn't have a spectacular chin, he has a lot of defensive holes, he's not actually that much bigger than Pacquiao, and Pacquiao has a great sense of timing.

 

Well, the weight difference on fight night will probably be close to 15 lbs. Pacman won't come in anything over 150, probably close to 148 or so while Kirkland will probably rehydrate to 162-165.

 

Kirkland is 5' 9" and usualy weighs around 165 lbs. on fight night. He's much bigger than Pacquiao. Manny's asking for a 150 lb. catchweight against Margo. Margo is much slower, less powerful, and worse defensively than Margo. Pacquiao would have a lot of problems with Kirkland at 154.

 

I meant in terms of height and reach. Kirkland is listed at 5'9" (which is a stretch) with a 70" reach. That's the same size as Joshua Clottey (and they both enter the ring at about the same weight as well).

Mostly, I just don't think Kirkland is good enough. Not enough speed to catch up with Manny, too predictable on offense, too easy to hit. Pac might get hurt, but he'd use a lot of lateral movement to keep popping Kirkland, probably dropping him around the 6th.

 

I don't see size becoming a big issue unless Pac was fighting a natural SMW or above, then I think he would get KO'd by average to lesser than average fighters.

Kirkland is a big target for Pac, thats all, he would be ****ing massacred. If you don't have a 20-30 pound weight advantage on the guy, its just a bigger target for him to hit. The two guys that KO'd Pac were smaller than him and had very fast hands.

I think the only guy that would definitely beat Pac from 140-154 is Floyd, Pac will blast anyone he can hit, but he would have a hard time finding Floyd.

I wish Kirkland and Pirog could simultaneously KO each other and end this madness. Funny how all the guys that talk **** about Pavlik sucking(Which he does) hype up Kirkland, who is a poor mans version of the guy. Mark my words, he is fun to watch but Kirkland will neer be ****.

 

If Pacquiao could go up to 154(his 10th weight class), and knockout a guy like Kirkland with 10 oz. gloves, who outweighs him by 15 lbs., then he's clearly on steroids. Kirkland doesn't have an ounce of punk in him. You're going to have to do a lot to knock a guy like that out; especially if you're fighting at your 10th weight class and are outweighed by double digit lbs.

 

And 5' 6" is a stretch for Pacquiao. To beat a guy like Kirkland you need to be a big puncher and/or a damn good boxer. I'm not sure if Pac can sit back and outbox Kirkland. There's no in hell he should have the power to knock him out either.