Come to Jesus Moment for Kelly Pavlik

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I made a typo. That last sentence was all ****ed up. I meant to say, "It sounds like people have been running off at the mouth without the bosses' knowledge."

 

No, last I heard from him I really thought he would be back on the board way before now........

 

I wonder what the "right money" is in Pavlik's estimation, he didn't seem to understand how much his stock dropped after the Hopkins loss, and this might be a problem now that he lost the Championship as well. Let's face it, any demand even close to 7 figures is unrealistic at this point, it might take 2 or 3 impressive wins to earn that kind of reward. But that means 2 or 3 high risk realtively low reward fights to take like Pirog, that's the only way back to the top, that or a payday vs. Lucian Bute which might be his last. Pavlik should rather start rebuilding his career opening with a change in the corner and deal with his wallet later, that's the smart order.

 

Chavez Jr. would have been 7 figures. Not in a guarantee but I think the fight would have sold well enough.

 

That fight never was realistic, a nice Top Rank Only idea with a lot of money, but no one was that stupid in the Chavez camp to get KTFO at 160lbs for a paycheck when he just started to look good with a future at 154. One way or another, Pavlik has to accept that in order to get the money of the old days, he must go though high risk fights with economic sacrifices, but like I said, that shouldn't be his main focus, putting his career back on track should, and that starts in the gym.

 

It will be interesting to see what happens in California. I THINK they only found him guilty of being the captain of his team and laid no real direct guilt on him personally for the hand wrap situation. They found him guilty of hiring his trainer basically and he fired that trainer. What grounds do they use now to deny him a license?

 

He still has name recognition. That is why Pirog wants him. I don't think his stock has fallen as far as you seem to think. Arum builds a 'product'. I could be wrong. I think he still will get a half mill for his next fight at minimum, not the $100K Bute's team thought they could get him for as an under card fight for FNF. Time will tell. A one sided loss could make the $100K look pretty damned good though.....

 

$500k is about right and realistic, even 1-200k more depending what the opponent and the fight brings in (Pirog, not much, Williams, a lot more), but is $500k the "right money" Pavlik is looking for vs. a riskly opponent such as Dmitry? I have a feeling that he's looking for a lot more, and I'm afraid that will kill the fight before serious negotiations could begin. Pavlik-Pirog is an excellent fight and there's much to gain for both (Pirog: name recognition, Pavlik: WBO title), so let's make it!

 

Kelly's guarantee is $600K. That's right in line with what you are talking about. However, the Chavez fight would have come out at 7 figures I'm sure: A really nice pay day with little risk. I think that is why KP was willing to entertain the idea.

Pirog's Russian presser is on B.S. Pirog said he will fight KP at a catch weight. Pavlik/Pirog at 165:nono Pirog gets his ass kicked by a veteran many people think is shot, but keeps his middleweight title. Sound familiar?