The Left Hook- To pivot or not to pivot

It’s weird. I’ve trained with some amazing people who seem to under price themselves as they can’t (or are reluctant to) market their skills. I’ve also seen “coaches” in fitness clubs charging twice the amount to give bad advice and hold pads like a chump while simply stroking lycra clad egos. I think boxing makes you constantly ask questions of yourself and so should your coach - maybe their clients/ students subconsciously recognise this and are happy to boxercise (which is fine if that’s what you are after).

However, the one good thing about the bad guys out there with their spoon stirring left hooks is sooner or later anyone who is keen and has half a brain will recognise the merits of someone who knows what they are doing and they will eventually seek out the boxing intellectuals.

 

You’re right bomber, it’s a bit of a **** take when the people with the know aren’t the ones reaping the benefits for often hard fought and well earned experience.

I learnt a long time ago that there’s often a tangible difference between the great coaches that trained fighters and the ones that could simply bring in the punters - if they/you are luck then they are able to blend the two.

Do you think you’ll find a solution – ie market yourself or work in a different way, raise your hourly rate or even sell your soul to the council/ local schools/ authorities to subsidise the work you do with fighters?

 

It's about asking for the right amount of money. People see you and think £20 is good but you must be **** as this guy is charging £50 for the same hour, so of course he must be better than you. Was the same with the PT's back at the gym I used to work at.

 

Is that a pro gym? Who are the trainers there?

 

Jeff, where do they come from :rofl Baffles me. Never charged in my life kids who want to learn. But having said that the soccer players that are sent PAY, they can afford it. I find the thought of charging Kids disgusting.

 

The thing is that some guys can get by without the pivot because they're naturally pretty strong and can deliver powerful blows regardless. However, they will never see their maximum potential or get the maximum leverage out of their left hooks without the pivot of the left foot. It facilitates the turn of the hips which in turn allows you to transfer your weight properly. So they will never see how hard they can really hit which may mean the difference between a knockdown and a knockout.

 

This. It depends on what you're using the hook for.

 

I might be wrong here but I will recall that i´ve read somewhere that Joe Frazier didn´t pivot.
Ther Predator

 

Yes, pivot on the LH and the RUC.

 

Depends, the left hook can be a great shot to walk someone onto whilst going backwards, then Id say no.
As an offensive shot, to get maximum power then you MUST pivot, its where the power comes from

 

You have to pivot, it is just to what degree do you pivot. Is it a haymaker? Is it a text book shot? Is the hook in a combo? Is it more of an arm/shoulder punch?

Learning to pivot is a must. How much you pivot depends on what you are trying to achieve. Without the pivot you can't properly put your bodyweight behind a shot.

 

Andy Wallace
Brian Lawrence
Chris Okoh
Harry Andrews
Lee Meager
Mickey Cunningham
Rob McCracken
Spencer Fearon

there are also some good amateurs who coach there. but 40 quid an hour is absolute cheapest you will get. and thayt will require some bartering and paying for a block of lessons....

 

without going into too much detail, yes and no

if you want power then pivot if you want to score a quick point and counter quickly then sometimes pivoting is not necessary, in boxing there is no right way to throw shots all the time, different times bring different ways to throw shots