Quitting. How does it affect a legacy?

I typed out a big thing but it was rambling and scatterbrained and I deleted it all. In short, it depends on what the cause was and what point in their careers they are at but basically I judge mostly on what a fighter is at their best and how much they accomplish, not when they have a bad day at the office and take a few milligrams of fukitol pm. Etc. I also had some Valuev stuff in there but...

 

It's just my opinion. But Vitali Klitschko's quit job against Chris Byrd is the worst one of all time.

Reasons why:

A. Vitali was an undefeated Champion defending his title

B. Vitali was well ahead on all three scorecards with only 2 rounds to go

C. All he had to do was survive for two more rounds against a weak hitting fighter whom he held a 8" and 50lb advantage on.

D. He could be seen using both arms in round 9..meaning it was not a state of an emergency

E. A 42 year old ex champion fought for 12 rounds vs Chris Byrd with the exact same injury Vitali had.

 

I was waiting for you, brother.

 

Victor Ortiz:think

 

Why is that addressed to me?

 

get off the classic please.

 

:hey

 

Don't mind, Tommygun, Leon. He's inhospitable and he hates Valuev (aka the Heavyweight Mayweather).

 

:shock:

 

Golotta quitting against Tyson was one of the stranger straight up quit-jobs I can recall.

 

"Nikolay Valuev has a style similar to what I'd use if I were his size. It's very effective and he isn't just talented like Wladimir Klitschko, he's GOD GIFTED, much like myself."

~Floyd Mayweather Junior - 2005 December Issue of Russian Boxing Today, article entitled: Special America's Views On Russian Fighters Edition!


That's from the man's mouth himself, my brother.

 

I hate the term 'quitter' because it evokes the notion of being weak or cowardly. Nothing could be further from the truth in regard to boxers. They put their lives on the line every time they step inside the ring and sometimes when they're under heavy fire something goes off inside the brain and the body responds. Far as I'm concerned it's about instinctive self preservation. Same principle as all those WW1 'cowards' that simply walked away from their posts and were court martialled for it. It's called severe trauma

No change to anyone's legacy. All it proves is that some people react differently to the same situation and in effect they have very little say in it

 

for the infamous "no mas" i dont think durans showed his lack of heart as a fighter, but i do believe is showed something equally as detrimental... which would be the lack of sympathy to those that need him to win (emotionally or financially)

im very sure that there was large portions of money that was put on for him and for him to quit was for him to not care about the well being of those that invested "literally" in him.

to me it was a very strange instance because there is that saying "once a quitter, always a quitter". but i think after all the fire and scrutiny that duran received after the "no mas", he may have been a "quitter", but i think he would die in the ring instead of quitting again.

as duran the boxer's legacy, i dont really know how to understand this mistake. as duran the person's legacy that made a effect that ruined financial situations and Hispanic pride, it was not well thought out and tragic.