Why are Pac and Mayweather avoiding Paul Williams?

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  1. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe instead of just dismissing it as bull****, you should understand what happened at the time.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    go on, make excuses using a beats b, b beats c, so a beats c.

    is beating buster douglas better than beating larry holmes?

    is beating saul duran better than beating leonard?

    what about fights vs collazo or judah?

    if he is so good at 147 why hasnt he proven it?
     
  3. El Intocable

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    he could have stayed at welter and fight other contenders like Collazo,Clottey or Cintron and keep pressing for that shot at the top guys , sooner or later he would get his chance but instead he chose to move up and fight non entities like Kolle and Verno.then he got a gift against Martinez and all of a sudden he wants to go back to welter,why doesnt he give a rematch to Sergio or why doesnt he fight Dzinziruk or a guy like Angulo who are in his division instead of calling out welterweights.
     
  4. theflyest

    theflyest Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tall Williams will NEVER fight at 147 again. Team Williams is trying to talk themselves into a fight (Mayweather or Pac) that will NEVER happen. They can talk about flirting with the idea all they want, but we all know he's not gonna go through that grind of making the 147 lb limit if it's not for the mega payday. They might as well be realistic with themselves and try to get the biggest payday possible at 154/160 (which, i think Team Williams is doing). I don't blame Team Williams for selling wolf tickets about going to 147 though, a payday against either of those guys is alot of money. Why should they fight Tall Williams? The man is not a draw & doesn't even fight in their weightclass. Why would Bob Arum put Pac in their with Tall Williams when he can keep the fight within his promotion? It's not his fault Goosen can't get Williams any attention & that Williams has no personality. It's all about the money. If Williams was any type of draw, he could get these fights. If he worked on Koing his opponents & developing a personality, maybe he can become a draw. Simply throwing alot of punches doesn't make you a star. He doesn't have "it."
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    we are discussing a 147 fight.

    have i ever said pac vs margo is a good fight? no.

    the ts has said pac and floyd are running from williams. his proof is that williams can make 147.

    since LEAVING the 147 division, he fought kolle, phillips and williams. this is because he couldnt get a big fight.

    he then gets a big fight vs martinez, wins a close fight, and runs from the rematch.

    as for a win over cintron? please dont call that farce a win.
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    who is the common factor in this? williams. the man who has just turned down 50/50 vs the MW champ of the world.
     
  7. El Intocable

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    He would be the most credible opponent for those two at 154 not at 147 cause he doesnt fight there, at 147 theres only one fight that people want to see and that is Pac-Floyd.
     
  8. NeckBreaknAiken

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    He beat the guy Pac is fighting....

    If Margarito deserves a shot, why doesn't Paul? And Joshua Clottey? What has he done to deserve a shot a Pac more than Paul?
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    no, you said they are avoiding him. considering he hasnt fought there for 2 myears, that is laughable.
     
  10. NeckBreaknAiken

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    What does this have to do with something that happened at 147?:huh
     
  11. lufcrazy

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    not at 147. at 154 obviously williams is a better fight than margo.

    how many times. i think the margo fight is utter bull****.

    the ts said that floyd and pac run from williams at 147.

    hell pac wasnt even at 147 when paul was.
     
  12. lufcrazy

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    because you are saying that the top 6 WW's have all ran from a guy. williams is the common factor, he has just walked away from a rematch with martinez.

    it could be easily said he didnt wanna fight at 147 anymore.

    that iis why he fought kolle, phillips and wright.
     
  13. Hermit

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    Cuz he signed with the wrong promoter?


    Still want to know why Cintron's offer to fight at 147 was turned down for their fight since Cintron said he was willing to go to 147?
     
  14. Caelum

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    He beat a Prime Plaster-boy Margarito who was considered "The Man" in the division. Then Paul goes out and calls out every elite name in the division and still did it after he left just in case they hit puberty.

    If you beat a Prime Plaster Boy named Margarito for the title, how is that not proof?
    Did Margarito not beat Cotto?

    Did Shane not decide to fight Margarito?

    Did Pac not decide to fight a Post-Plastered Cotto?

    How come they didn't take his challenge and how is that Paul's fault he didn't get to fight Pac, Shane, and Floyd?
     
  15. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    So because williams has fought at higher weight and has a win over the current lineal 160 lb champ he doesnt deserve a shot at Manny at 147? :huh

    Why isnt williams a better choice at 147 than margarito?