Joey Giardello

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  1. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Been watching alot of him recently.

    I really liek his style, a mobile technician who was very fundamentally sound. He was defensivly superb with his lateral movement, head movement and parrying ability. But also had a nice arsenal with a very cultured left hand and a hard chopping right hand.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DSEulBFz6w[/ame]

    I think his bout with Robinson here really showcases the full extent of his talents. The slow speed in which the film is played really lets us see Giardello's full ability. One thing that strikes me is his foot work and positioning. His feet are always perfectly placed to punch, move or allow him to move his head. It really is superb. His hand positioning is also very good as his hands are always in a position to protect himself and offer very little openings.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy6qSMrTyaw[/ame]

    The jab is superb vs Dick tiger in the third match. Look at how he keeps Tiger at range and off balance with that jab by snapping out as he changes angle, this also allows him to set up combinations when he wants, as the jab is in Tiger's face anyway. Superb stuff. Also his feinting is top notch at basically doing what his jab does.

    In the footage Robinson is not what he once was but he looks pretty darn effective in there and was certainly no dead man walking.

    He is definitly one of the most skilled Middleweight of all time, for my money.

    Also his longevity is outstanding he was basically a valid contender for the Middleweight title throughout 60-66 and he was more or less the top contender and when he was champion he completly out-boxed Dick Tiger in one of the best boxing exhibitions I have seen. He also drew with Fullmer for the title afew years earlier and it looked a very close fight indeed, although I do think Fullmer's swarming attack he put forward was hell for Giardello who could not get his boxing going, but I still think drawing with Fullmer is a good achievement. Obviously he lacked consistency though.

    He beat some top names of the era like Dick Tiger, Pierre Langlois, 'Tiger' Jones, Randy Sandy, Rubin Carter, Ray Robinson, Walter Cartier etc... That is one very impressive resume.

    So thoughts on Giardello.

    Where would you rate him at Middleweight? Tope ten worthy?

    Speaking of chopping right hands

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqpW9V1bMvs[/ame]
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Giardello was, in my opinion, one of the premier boxing wizards of all time...and I'm delighted that there's a fair number of vids of his that are available to watch. What a smart, savvy guy to watch...and yes, he makes it in my top 10..at #9, to be precise.
     
  3. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well-schooled fighter who was a top fighter for over a decade. It's amazing that he finally won the title at 34 years of age after 120+ fights. He wasn't always as well-prepared as he could have been but in his defense he fought very frequently and it's difficult to be in the best possible condition each time out.

    I wouldn't have him in my top 10, but he's top 20 material. At worst top 30, in my opinion. Just lacked the consistency and wasn't necessarily the best of his era, but it was a tough middleweight era he fought in.
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Great description of him.

    I think he could crack a top ten through his longevity, depth of resume and quality of wins. But like you say the consistency is a big problem and he never really did prove himself as the top man of the division he was always (well nearly always) the number 1 contender rather than the Champion.
     
  5. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's a tough list to crack though. I don't have any official lists, but I'm sure I can think of 10 middleweights who I'd rate above him.
     
  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    GP, who's around today that reminds you of Giardello?
     
  7. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Juan Manuel Marquez is probably the closest one. But I dont think there is any real Giardello copy-cats around today.
     
  8. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree...Giardello was self taught basically...I don't think you can be the way he is without going through a long career of ups and downs..and if you survive an upbringing like that you're bound to learn something..Joey earned a PHD in pugilism, IMO.
     
  9. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My grandfather was at the Giardello-Robinson fight and said that Joey really looked good that night against Robinson.
     
  10. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boy, it is Great to see Joey against Tiger again, and the referee was a Great friend of mine, by the name of Paul Cavaliere. Cavaliere held wins over James J. Braddock and Two Ton Tony Galento. I had the pleasure of giving him a surprise 85th birthday party, back in the late 1980's, and I presented him with a World Championship Belt. In New Jersey he was recognized as an Uncrowned Champion.

    When Paul passed away, I was asked to give the eulogy, as many of the boxing Greats attended. Also when Joey passed, I had the pleasure of giving the eulogy as well. It just seemed strange to me to see those 2 in the ring at the same time.

    Here's an E-Mail Joey's son sent me:

    Henry, on behalf of my family, I would like to thank you for your kind words and bell ceremony during our fathers funeral last week. My mother was very pleased with the way you portrayed Dads career and the fact that you only rang the bell only nine times. I know pop would have liked it himself. I would also like to apologize for not thanking you in person but with everything that was going on at that moment, it had slipped my mind. Once again Thank You Very Much.

    Sincerely

    Joseph P Tilelli
     
  11. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mr. Hascup,

    It is a wonderful thing you when eulogizing a person's loved one. From your corespondences on the board it shows the human side of all the great fighters and people you've associated with.

    Keep up the good work and God bless you and your family.
     
  12. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thank You so much for those kind words. Since I became President of the New Jersey Boxing Hall of Fame I have done approx. 200 Eulogy's for boxing people. Last year I was called to do Arturo Gatti's in Jersey City.

    Thanks once again!
     
  13. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    john garfield Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A writer friend who lives a few doors from the Tilelli family has been working on an authorized bio of Joey G for about three years. From time to time I read passages. Good stuff. Think it's gonna be riveting.
     
  15. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Last year I got a phone call from someone who was writing a book on Joey. He asked me several questions about him and then asked me if I was the one that gave the eulogy for him, as he was at the church that day. Later I remembered someone coming up to me that day telling me that he was writing a book and would like to interview me. I wonder if he is the same writer.