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Not quite so from the reports I recall reading. Certainly not resembling Gans to me.

 

I'm not so sure, Unforgiven. I think Darcy fought in a much tougher era of middleweights than Ketchel, even though he didn't face many of them due to his premature death. He did manage to beat several title claimants though. He twice beat Jimmy Clabby, who was a slick and excellent boxer. He twice knocked out Eddie McGoorty, who packed a hefty wallop and had never been stopped previously despite fighting the best of the best. In fact many thought McGoorty was going to be the post-Ketchel champ as soon as all the smoke cleared.

Darcy beat former champ George Chip, who was a tough hombre and packed a nasty punch. He beat Jeff Smith, probably the most clever middleweight of the era next to Mike Gibbons(I wrote an article on him that appeared last year in Boxing Digest). He beat rugged contenders like Gus Christie and Buck Crouse.

Does Ketchel's resume compare? I don't know, but Papke, O'Brien, Thomas and Twin Sullivan are nothing to sneeze at. I just am not sure how they stack up against Darcy's comp.

Just tossing it out there...

 

Duran is overrated as usual

 

Give it a ****ing rest.

 

#1. Sugar Ray Robinson
#2. Henry Armstrong
#3. Willie Pep
#4. Muhammad Ali
#5. Ezzard Charles
#6. Sugar Ray Leonard
#7. Sam Langford
#8. Joe Louis
#9. Gene Tunney
#10. Bob Fitzsimmons
#11. Roberto Duran
#11. Marvin Hagler
#12. Julio Cesar Chavez
#13. Evander Holyfield
#14. Rocky Marciano
#15. Thomas Hearns

 

You actually think it's a good list?
I would think you'd be bashing me for having duran so low.

 

Thank **** we have you here to ducate us now.

Pompous try hard.

 

Your list omitting Harry Greb, from the top, let alone altogether is like listing the greatest presidents, and leaving out Abraham Lincoln...No one on your list of fifteen accomplished such an amazing record, against
HOFame fighters,weighing 12-50 pounds more than him in a 299 bout career...But you somehow know the merits of Harry Greb, that somehow
eluded the hundreds of boxing experts and historians, who saw Harry Greb in the flesh....Amazing....

 

Maybe he should bash you for not having,Harry Greb, Benny Leonard , Eder Jofre, or Jimmy Wilde on it?

 

In no order inside the groups:

Greb
Armstrong
Langford
Robinson
Fitzsimmons

Charles

Walker
Pep
B. Leonard

Ross
Duran
Moore

Ryan
Gans
Canzoneri

HM: Ali, Louis, Monzon, Whitaker, Walcott, Tunney, Burley, McLarnin, Jofre, R. Leonard, Dempsey (non-pareil)

 

You sound like Pachilles to me