How highly do you value the Ring title?

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  1. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I started a thread yesterday about wether or not a potential Bradley-Alexander fight should be for the Ring magazine's world title. And one of the responses i got was "i don't care, i don't consider that a real title".

    Which made me think ok, fair enough, BUT.... if the Ring magazine's title is not a legitimate world championship, then what the hell is? I mean we can hardly rely on these sanctioning bodies to appoint real world champions because that's just not what they're in it for.

    I know that the Ring's championship policy isn't flawless or water-tight. But they're the only entity within the boxing world that awards world titles with the sole purpose of recognizing the man who has proven himself the best of his weightclass, no ulterior motives.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Less and less. This "#1 vs #3" bull**** is killing it.

    In my book, it should be "#1 vs #2, or sometimes #1 vs #2 and #3"
     
  3. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    It's not an official belt so I can't rate it above the rest. But logically it usually goes to ones that deserve it the most, that can't be denied.

    You can overlook the rest all you want but officially they're the ones that matter and get fighters noted down/remembered as official champions or former champions.
     
  4. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    Above any other title but it seems to be losing it's credibility slowly.
     
  5. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    It looks cool!
    (+ it's the belt Rocky Balboa had)
     
  7. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The WBA are degrading the ring title by having the wba super title lookin gjust like it.
     
  8. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    this. :deal
     
  9. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Rarely is 1 vs. 3 for the title. They did it with Wlad, but Vitali was no.2. In that situation I believe it's fair to do 1 vs. 3. They were going to do it for Dawson vs. Pascal but Johnson was no.2 and of course Johnson has already lost to Dawson twice. I do have problems with the Ring belt, but the occasional 1 vs 3 for the title isn't one of them. I think they do a good job with that.
     
  10. richie leon

    richie leon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's a great point, Ring title reigns don't go on record. But maybe that can grow over time. Marquez has been widely considered the Lightweight champ of the world ever since he beat Casamayor for the Ring title, and will likely be remembered as such.

    Everybody considers Ricky Hatton to have been the 140-pound champion until he lost to Pacquiao, but no major sanctioning bodies belt was on the line for his fights with Castillo, Lazcano, Malignaggi or Pac.
     
  11. PBFred

    PBFred Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This. It's clearly the most accurate reflection of what's going on in each division yet seems to be getting more and more political.
     
  12. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    the problem with the ring is theres no mandatorys. a fighter can become champion and just fight bums once every 18 months and nothing changes. the ring puts an emphasis on lineage rather than the champions fighting the best. a simple rule of having to fight a top 10 guy once a year would make it more credible.

    add to this that there rules don't make sense and can be changed, there rankings can be very strange and its rarley refrenced by the media, fighters and promoters.

    Eastside has its own rankings which our better than the Ring (i would say it as I help to run them) you can find them here

    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224146[/url]
     
  13. Keueng

    Keueng Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He also held WBA, WBC and IBF (but those were only shown in his last movie)
     
  14. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Yes but what officially made Casamayor the top man at 135?, winning the WBC title previously even if it dropped off, the fact that he never lost THAT belt made him the official top guy. Marquez also won the WBO title after beating Diaz, that made his case stronger as the top guy.

    Hatton's case is identical. He beat Kostya Tszyu who was formerly the unified champion who dropped his belts due to inactivity. Unifying and winning those belts is what made him officially the top guy. Not to forget that he had the IBF title from that fight and also went on to win the WBA.

    To make it simple, it's after winning the official belts that eventually brings out a "lineal" champion in one. So without those belts that title wasn't going to exist.
     
  15. Keueng

    Keueng Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well even though there are some issues about #1 VS #3 we can't deny that their rules are the most fair comparing it to other bodies. Even if they don't have any authority, we see fighters wearing them with pride often wearing the ring belt and letting the slaves carry the others (when unified). That means that fighters value them too, right?