Joe Louis was serious.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by HENDO, Aug 11, 2010.


  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    And 2 Pound Forbes has almost exact style and stance to Floyd, doesn't mean he could beat Mosley.....you fool :patsch:lol:

    Don't every compare Carnera to the Klits again....it just screams ignorance and impartiality!!!
     
  2. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:You guys kill me sometimes.

    Haye is 6'3, 220. Louis was 6'2, 210. Hardly a massive difference in size. There is absolutely no legitimacy to the claim that Haye was "too powerful" for Louis, either. Where do you get off saying such a thing in the first place? Louis was one of the best punch-pickers and finishers of all time. Haye is a like a caveman once he gets an opponent hurt, with all technique flying out the window. Not that he's much of a technician in the first place. Louis would wipe the floor with Haye. I'd be amazed if he lasted more than a couple rounds.
     
  3. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad nor Vitali have ever fought a man similiarly skilled as Louis, yet Louis has not only fought guys similiarly skilled, but also SIZED, so how can you make that type of assertion?
     
  4. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So despite the fact that a side by side comparison shows a guy with about the exact same stance, style, size, and speed of Wlad, my statement screams impartiality?

    And then you say, they would have killed Louis, yet have no ancedotal evidence to support your claim other than, let me guess, "they're BIGGER!."
     
  5. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patschJesus ****ing Christ. That's going in the sig.
     
  6. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    He was knocked out by smaller guys with a lesser skillset.

    Use your head mate.
     
  7. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Dude, please just stop it.

    Louis in his prime was under 200lbs. He wouldn't even be a damn heavyweight today! How many fighters did he fight over the 200lb mark? I'm not going to boxrec to check, but i know it is most likely under 10.

    It is not a knock on Louis at all, he just does not, at all, match up against these huge guys with the footwork, reflexes, jabs, handspeed and skills as the Klit brothers :deal
     
  8. Pug1list

    Pug1list Boxing Addict Full Member

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    We do have likes of Kelly Pavlik these days, could challenge HW's of the past.
     
  9. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This Wlad overrating is going way overboard. This is the same guy that was defeated by journeymen and bums, and now he's unbeatable.

    This is ridiculous.
     
  10. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    No.

    Absolutely not.

    Vitali is one of the most basic fighters to ever hold the HW title. He is to be prided on his athleticism and size but he is nothing special. at all. Fat Lewis beat him. ****ing Chris Byrd beat him. And the longest reigning HW champion of the world could not?

    As for Wlad, no glass chinned fighter can stand against Louis for any set period of time. This guy lost to Lamon Brewster and Corrie Sanders. He has improved massively but in no way is he in the same class of fighter that prime Louis is. sorry.

    Like who? Max Schmeling? Schmeling was a titleholder and a great fighter in his own right. Louis was never KO'd in his prime apart from that fight, where he didn't train and got his just desserts for it. Haye has a worse skillset than Schmeling, and is a worse fighter overall. He gets gassed by R5 and has **** defense.


    I would think the Lewis fight would be more on the level because of his massive punch and lateral movement and good skils, but that fight is more in the air. Two of the hardest HW punchers ever with shaky chins, it would be interesting. Bowe vs. Louis would be interesting. I wonder who would fall under the close range assault first. I think JL's handspeed would win him this one by a small hair, but Bowe could certainly bang him out.

    Wlad and Vitali would lose. terribly.
     
  11. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    No its not. Outside of the klitschkos, there's absolutely nobody that would beat him. I would actually pick him to beat both of them.
    Wladimir doesn't have the chin, and he's very very robotic... Louis would make fast work with him and probably TKO him.
    Vitali drops his hands, leans back from punches, and cuts easily. Louis would easily counter that pushing jab and snap him with a good right cross. Nobody today would beat Louis.
     
  12. Pug1list

    Pug1list Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like when Roy Jones Jr went up to heavyweight?
     
  13. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    NO boxer in history under prime weight of 205lbs should ever be favored over Wlad, Vitali, Lewis or a prime Bowe :good
     
  14. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again, you have no ANCEDOTAL evidence to support your claim. Louis beat several taller and bigger opponents, Primo just being one example, and you're talking about Wlad, who can't throw an uppercut to save his life and has ZERO inside fighting ability, but has INCREDIBLE skills.

    Of course he has skills when you're fighting guys that don't know how to duck a punch to save their lives, or Peter who would run into punches, but has no handspeed and sharpness.

    Fact is, Tyson or other fighters, such as Louis, that could get inside would destroy Wlad on the inside with combinations that Wlad's chin could not survive.

    This is the same guy that has been knocked out by bums, yet now he's unbeatable?
     
  15. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Gotta love morons who think asking questions rather than answering them is an effective way to win an argument. In short, you as dumb as a bag of hammers, friend. Primo Carnera? First off, dummy, they do not have similar stances. And Carnera had no footwork of which to speakl. He walked in the ring and could not move from side to side. Why don't you just do yourself a favor...Look in the mirror, admit you're an idiot, and soak your :goodhead in the toliet.