Joe Louis was serious.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by HENDO, Aug 11, 2010.


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  1. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you know what guano is? That's the approximate value of your opinion, dingbat.
     
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  2. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    dude you have the evidence right in front of you

    Byrd TKO9 Vitali.

    size<<<<<<<<skill.
     
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  3. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fact that you disagree based on size alone makes it appear you don't know **** about boxing.

    I'm only discussing one man. Not everyone else, but one man, which happens to be Joe Louis who has fought men who fought almost identical to Klitschko, and knocked them out COLD.

    You have no evidence on the contrary except, "they're bigger."
     
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  4. Kel1981

    Kel1981 P4P No.1 Full Member

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    You are just one of these dumb ****ers who refuse to see how boxing has evolved. Louis had no footwork and not much defense. Watch some footage and imagine a Klit againsed him. Just do it pillock.
     
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  5. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Oh so now a 6'5" or 6'7" pound fighter with the foot work of Wlad and Vitali and jabs NEED to fight Holyfield on the inside to beat him? :patsch Now I've heard it all!
     
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  6. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Louis would probably be the man to beat in todays hw era...his biggest threats would be the klitchkos but I think he could take a ud over both of em...COMPETITIVE FIGHTS HOWEVER
     
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  7. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We're talking about the same guy that was knocked out by JOURNEYMAN and NOBODIES.

    ****, the guy was knocked down 3 times by SAM PETER.

    That should say it all.
     
    HENDO, Aug 11, 2010
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  8. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Dude just end it, I never once said I was favoring them based on "size alone". You are reaching and making **** up.

    That is where I distinguish them from ****ing Primo Carnera....he had size alone. The Klits have legitimate skills, great reflexes, use range great, hit hard, have heart and are whether you like to admit it or not GREAT fighters! :patsch

    Right right, Primo Carnera was "identical" to the klitschkos....you are so dumb it's unbelievable. Now since a guy has a similar style, he is identical? Forbes and Floyd? Explain that one genius!
     
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  9. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    You think Haye has superior technique to Louis? Please tell me you're not serious.... Louis's style is economy in boxing. He's a boxer-puncher of the catch and kill variety. I bet you think Arguello is slow with no defense either :lol:

    maybe if haye was like louis he wouldn't be gasping for air before double digit rounds

    yeah, that should be ignored. the klits and carnera have somewhat similar styles and size, other than that they are miles apart as far as fighters go.
     
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  10. bkamins

    bkamins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In that case, you're wrong! Let me pose a very simple question. If every olympic record on the books from the 1930's (the Joe Louis era) has been obliterated...what does that tell you? Hmmm???? Does it tell you that maybe, just maybe we have better athletes these days. I mean, there isn't an olympic athlete from 1936 that would have a prayer in any sport against any modern athlete. Isn't that right? Why would it be different for professional sports? :patsch This romantic notion that the sportman of old were the best is just that...
     
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  11. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This forum makes me lose faith in humanity.
     
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  12. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Wow....and your argument for Vitali?

    I already said louis might catch Wlad, but if they fought 10 times Wlad would win 7 probably :good
     
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  13. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd say KO over Wlad.

    Louis would get underneath Wlad's jab, and land combinations. Wlad's defense is merely to walk back in straight lines, and use his height to get away from punches.

    Guys today can't duck a punch to save their lives though, and don't take any risks on the inside.

    Look at what Ibriganov's movement did to Wlad. It made for one of the worst fights in history.

    The difference is that Louis has great movement, but he would also respond which sharp punches.

    Wlad has no chin, and no inside fighting ability. When Louis gets inside, it could be game over every time.

    Wlad is being SERIOUSLY overrated. The man has been beaten by bums.

    But I think Louis UD's Vitali who is very tough, and a better fighter than Wlad.
     
    HENDO, Aug 11, 2010
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  14. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vitali would be harder because he is tougher, but he is a thudding puncher, rather than a knockout puncher.

    He breaks you down over time, and I think Louis's speed and movement would be what allows him to win this fight, but I think it would be a UD victory.

    Look at how sharp and fast Louis looks against Baer.
     
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  15. Pug1list

    Pug1list Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm talking about rare occurrences, DiMaggio's hit streak has stood since 1941, why hasn't it been broken in 70 years?, why hasn't anyone come close?
     
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