Dirrell was robbed in UK - Kotelnik robbed in USA

i dont need to make a video. i dont need to do anything. i have provided a source to back up my stats. im not gonna sit at home and try to determine which punches do or do not land, when boxrec have done it for me. if the numbers are made up im sure they will get changed.

to make the convo easier, just assume you and michigan are on the same wavelenght and i will continue the argument with him. he can represent you both.

 

Dude that isn't the way it works, any editor can put any stat they want up. It isn't some font of truth, there's a reason most college Professors won't allow wiki pages as sources on papers.

Let me ask you something, why come on here and make up some obvious bull**** about Froch outlanding Dirrell? There were about six pages of British fans before you and even the rest of them didn't have the chutzpah to claim that. They all gave some ridiculous tripe about running and holding and blah. You're the first one to say Froch outlanded Dirrell. Why?

 

Froch - Dirrell was in no way shape or form a close fight. At best Froch won 2 rounds because of the lack of Dirrell action.

Kotelnik-Alexander is close, could go different ways depending on how you score rounds.

 

You arent serious are you?

- 2:46 Dirrell lands a straight right and left.

- 2:40 Froch misses a jab, Dirrell lands a left jab

- 2:10 Froch misses a jab again, Dirrell lands a right cross

- 1:45 Dirrell lands a left uppercut

- 1:42 Froch lands an uppercut as the refs about to break em

- 1:11 Froch lands a jab

- 1:08 Both trade jabs that land

- 1:02 Dirrell lands a right to the body, lands a right to the ribs, and finished with a right to the head driving Froch against the ropes. Biggest punch of the round

:46 Froch gets Dirrell against the ropes. Misses everything

:25 Froch again gets Dirrell against the ropes, aside from a couple shoe shines to his stomach, lands nothing again.

: 10 Tarver summarizes the fight perfectly how Froch is "Not landing anything"


So again dope? How can you score this round for Froch? Its clear dirrell did better. Whats wrong with you?

Provide the quote where he said he lost. Jim Grey asks if he could have done more, he says "yeah maybe" Never said he lost the round. HE was flustered and emotional, what dont you get about that?

 

You would care to have a convo with you? It just took me a few posts to realize how ****ing stupid you were. I was going to explain to you what wiki is and how it works and how an appeal to authority is a logical fallacy, but you don't know anything about it anyways and it would be exhausting for me.

 

:goodYou're bang on. At most Froch won maybe 2-3 rounds. In no way did he deserve anymore to me. I just rewatched the fight a few hours ago and have seen it like 5 times maybe more.

 

well boxrec clearly dont have an agenda in this, so why would they post inaccurate stats?

ive just given you my reasons you silly billy. but if tarver agrees with you then i must do also right.

 

A disgruntled Froch fan makes up numbers and posts them on boxrecwiki. What dont you get about it?

Oh and comment on my round 12 analysis please.

 

yes boxrec are biased for froch. the biggest conspiracy in boxing has been unravelled right here tonight. who would have thought it eh?

and i aint that stupid, i got shitloads of letters after my name for one. but dont exhaust yourself on my account bucko.

 

Dirrell did not give the fight the preparation it warranted and that cost him the bout. He gave a weak performance, as he could have done better....

 

ok then, so why hasnt a disgruntled dirrell fan, righted this wrong? why have the same numbers been there since the fight?

and as for the post fight interview, i couldnt find it on yooutube, but it was the showtime version. it is referenced in that match report on boxrec.

i have commented. you have your analysis, i have mine, what more do you want?

do you honestly expect me to suddenyl see things your way because you have wrote a few words down? i mean i did a thread myself on this, and it is clear it wasnt a robbery because a load of people felt froch did enough to win, ill dig it out for ya.

one sec.

found it.

[url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=221953&highlight=froch+kessler+dirrell[/url]

 

Because nobodies bothered to post them. So you are saying that boxrec has a personal punch counter who counts punches then posts them on there website?

You do know you sound really stupid right now?

Referenced. I want an exact quote. Dirrell never says he lost. He says yeah to Greys question if he could have done more in the 12th. Grey also asks Froch if he got hometown cooking. Its his job to play both angles.

My analysis is more thorough. I clearly show when punches were landed and who landed when and where. Its clear who won the round. All you say is Froch was hit with a big punch and outjabbed him. Again you're just embarrassing yourself now.

do you honestly expect me to suddenyl see things your way because you have wrote a few words down? i mean i did a thread myself on this, and it is clear it wasnt a robbery because a load of people felt froch did enough to win, ill dig it out for ya.

Thats a recent poll. The one right after the fight had 60% of posters, ON THE BRITISH FORUM having Dirrell win the fight.

 

i dunno how they do the punchstats, they could easily have a computerised method also, i dont work for boxrec. all i know is the stat is there and i sourced it when asked.

i couldnt fight the prefight showtime interview when i just went on youtube and i cant be arsed trawling through the internet but itll be out there. hell you saw the fight right? you should remember him admitting he didnt win the last round.

more thorough, yes do you have your own personal compubox machine to determine which jabs dirrell landed? listen i saw the fight at the time as a razor thin win for froch, i havent changed my mind after seeing your analysis. good effort tho.

obviously it was recent because it included the kessler fight. but again it is split pretty much 50/50 as to who won the fight. that aint a robbery pal.

and woo well done for finding a thread in the british forum. i aint gonna change my mind because some other of my countrymen have a differing opinion. if that was the case id probably be a... infact i cant bring myself to mention the scum, but i woulnd support leeds anyways.

 

Do you know of any commission associated with boxrec that does compubox? Again please stop.

You've ever seen boxing rec's rankings? And you want to believe some random punch stats?

Dirrell did one interview. At no point did he admit to losing the twelth. Just something Froch fans say to make them feel at ease with their boy getting a gift.

Why would I need my own personal compubox machine? The clean effective punches in the round were clearly landed by Dirrell. Please tell me, did Froch even land a powerpunch in the round?

if you want to persist in your ingnorance thats on you. Just know that I've scored the fight thoroughly, you seem to be operating purely on bias. thus why you cant acknowledge Dirrell won the 12th despite Froch landing 1 powershot, and Dirrell landing several combos.

Its a recent poll. The original froch vs Dirrell poll had dirrell wide ahead. Including on the Brit forum.

Again if you believe Froch won, post your scorecard. I'll be happy to obliterate that like I obliterated your opinion Froch won the 12th.

 

Its a recent poll. The original froch vs Dirrell poll had dirrell wide ahead. Including on the Brit forum.

Again if you believe Froch won, post your scorecard. I'll be happy to obliterate that like I obliterated your opinion Froch won the 12th.[/quote]

what have rankings got to do with punch stats? that being said ill believe them over you anyways.

i dont need to feel at ease, i believe he won the fight it dont matter if everyone else disagrees. it happens. a good exapmle is a recent thread about pac. someone said what was a bigger fight,pacs upcoming fight vs margo or pacs defence vs clottey, i was the only one at the time who voted clottey. **** happens.

like i said you think dirrell won round 12, me and at least two others disagree with you. you gotta let it go man. this **** aint heathy.

scoredcard, jeez. did i put one in that thread? apparantly not. ive put it on one of these threads somewhere, and im sure someone has debated it with me before, might even have been you. either way i cant be arsed digging it out, nor can i be arsed rewatching and re-scoring the fight.

i do believe dirrell has more than enough talent to beat froch as he proved in rounds 10 and 11. i believe he would be a favourite in the rematch. i also believe he fought the wrong game plan and it cost him. kinda like when hagler decided he could beat leonard by going southpaw