Dirrell was robbed in UK - Kotelnik robbed in USA

So basically you admit that the only reason you scored the fight for Froch is because of bias for him as a fighter?

Again stop with the passive aggressive bull****. It doesnt work on me. If you believe Froch won the fight actually post why you think so, instead of just saying because you think so.



Seriously dude, whats unhealthy is being a fan of a fighter like Froch. He's pretty much done as a fighter.

 

nah it was more of the opposite, cos dirrell was fighting so wank it was hard to give him rounds.

i aint passive agressive am i? ive said why i think he won it. it was a close fight and i gave him the edge cos he did more. as i said i cant be arsed finding my scorecard on here.

froch is a credit. a man with very little talent who is willing to take on the best in the world? what more can you ask for? he has fought robin reid, pascal, taylor, dirrell, kessler and will be lacing them up vs abraham soon. he fights all oncomers and even chased calzaghe into retirement. hard not to respect him if you ask me.

 

You give rounds based on clean punching, defense, effective aggression ad ring generalship. Dirrell clearly won 2 of the 4 criteria. The other 2, Froch wasnt effective in his aggression because he couldnt land, and he wasnt the ring general, he could not stop Dirrell from going where he wanted.

Again if you score correctly its a no brainer. Fighting wank has nothing to do with it.

You havent been able to justify your scoring once. You've just managed to sound like a little girl instead of a man. IF you believe Froch won, please post your scorecard, hell I'll even let you get off easy by posting a real analysis of round 12. I slaughtered you in that round and you didnt even know it.

Again prove that you actually know something boxing, or beat it.

Pretty much every journeyman wants to take on the best. Who cares. He's not skilled, slow, lumbering and is lucky to even have held a paper strap.

what more can you ask for? he has fought robin reid, pascal, taylor,

I can respect him as a human being, but he's garbage, and its sad that a young talented fighter has a blemish on his record because he was robbed in favor of a caveman in Froch.

 

you score against overt negativity also, as that is anti effective agression, and anti ring generalship. up until round 10 dirrell was shite, but it was close and there were a hell of a lot of swing rounds.

again, i am in manchester, england it is 2:25 i do not have the inclination to either find my scorecard, or rewatch the fight. i thought at the time he won, i have not rewatched it since. therefore my opinion aint changed.and truth be told if i was to watch any froch fight again, it would be vs kessler. that was an amazing fight dont ya think? round twelve was brutal!

hahaha paper strap? in that case every belt holder at smw is a paper champ since calz vacated them all. that is the point, journey men and prospects have that hunger, most champs dont. hell look at floyd and pac not taking decent fights, look at khan, alexander and bradley all avoiding each other, look at haye navoiding the klitschkos, look at donaire going years without a named opponent. all these are vastly more skilled as a boxer yet dont share his heart and desire.

i agree he is shite, but he still finds a way to win. and he fights anyone, that is why i respect him. thats why i used to respect haye, but e threw that one out of the window didnt he eh?

 

Where does in the rules you say score negativity?

clinching and boxing has been apart of boxing since Gene Tunney outboxed and out held Jack Dempsey. What Dirrell was doing was nothing out of the ordinary. British fans were just mad that their man could not lay a finger on the other man, and was getting clowned. Dirrell wasnt that negative. I've seen way worse fights. Froch just couldnt touch him, and thats not Dirrells fault, its for Froch's not knowing how to cut off the ring. Do you think Ali is negative? What about Mayweather?

Again better hope Froch doesnt meet Ward in America. He'll get a lesson inside fighting.

Its is never smart to score a fight viewing it once, especially when you are biased for the other fighter. I thought Alexander won, but that was my bias. REscored it again had it a draw, with the swing rounds more in Kotelniks favor and honestly deserved the decision.


As for Haye, was a fan, wanted to believe he was going to bring excitement to the heavyweights, now it seems all talk.

 

ali and floyd werent overly negative, and for the large part they controlled the fight at their own pace. when one guy comes forward throwing punches and the other runs away and throws out a jab, its hard scoring for them.

perhaps you're right but considering how dire the fight was i have no inclination to rewatch it. so that being said i am left wit my original score, i remember i had it 7-4-1 in terms of rounds it would have been 7-5 had dirrell not lost a point in the tenth. i remember rewatching it like the day after, and i had the same score. im not going through it again.

yes haye has let a lot of people down sadly.

 

Dont giv into him he is a hypocrit, anyone who beleives Dirrell was robebd but DA was a clsoe fight is clearly biased or does not understand how to score boxing. I mean come on just look at his name lol MICHIGAN warrior, while he defends a fighter from oh what a suprise! Michigan. I could understand people saying both was robberysor neitehr dependng on their preffered styles and views but to say one isnt and the other is, is pure hypocrisy.

 

i think they where both close fights me. the dirrell froch one, from what i remember, i gave froch 6 of the first 9, but the rounds where that close they could have gone the other way. it was a boring fight with very little action and the nod went to the man who tried to make it a fight, i got no complaints.

the alexander kotelnik one, i gave the first 5 to alexander, and felt he was in control up until the cut. but i felt kotelnik controlled from then on. i thought kotelnik won but i got no problems wih the result going the other way.

boxinng is a subjective sport at the end of the day.

 

LOL... if your way assessing people is the same as you ring analysis, then you are the one who knows **** about boxing ... but at least I have great fun reading your weird rants, and you trying your best to insult people... don 't try, it'll only makes me laugh, but at least you know how to put a smile on people's face (with your dumbness)

Just hang on, I'll make you cry showing those articles, and I'm not going to show you my sixpack or you'll sink to the table from embarassment. I can already imagine that fat belly of yours just like that other fat talking but no walking ****er on your avatar

 

That is incorrect. Here is the bbc article, why you making things up??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/8895851.stm

 

Kotelnik landed more punches in most rounds and he still lost LOL

 

Because that's what he does.

Makes claims about articles he hasn't read, analyses fights he hasn't seen.

 

slow down, his analysis of haye - valueve is clearly credible. surely he wouldnt compare a fight with one he openly admits to never watching? he aint that dumb?

 

The Official MichiganWarrior/Danny Rand Fights Watched Stats *in assocation with CompuRetard*

Froch v Dirrell - 1,756,242 viewings
Dirrell v Abraham - 337 viewings
All other boxing matches ever - 0 viewings

The above is a guesstimation based on practiced scientific methodolgy and thus can be taken as solid fact.

 

Oops I meant sky sports news. Im American remember

"Devon Alexander retained his WBC and IBF light-welterweight titles with a unanimous, if narrow, decision against Andriy Kotelnik in St Louis.

The 23-year-old overcame the durable Ukrainian - the former WBA champion who lost his belt to Amir Khan last year - with all three judges scoring the contest 116-112.

However, it was not an easy night for the undefeated champion, despite dominating the early rounds as he mixed his shots up well.

Kotelnik (31-4-1), fighting for the first time since the Khan defeat 13 months ago, warmed to his task as he landed some crisp shots in the fifth and sixth rounds with Alexander momentarily bemused.

The champion, now 21-0, upped his workrate in the next although he stuck riggedly to coming straight at his opponent, piercing Kotelnik's guard with regularity.

The last four rounds were competitive with both fighters happy to trade blows, and although Alexander deserved to take the victory the Ukrainian exposed some defensive flaws the other belt holders at 140lb may now be keener to exploit. "