Smallest Fighter You Think Could Stop Wladimir?

Marciano was tough. Even if he does get nailed, he would keep on coming. Wlad would have trouble even landing the jab, because Marciano would be so low.

 

Marciano would not beat Wlad, let alone Fitz or Choynski. That is just laughable. He is stronger than any of these guys on a magnitude of 10 and in his current incarnation he controls distance magnificently. Fights start from the outside in and Wlad would keep it on the outside, period. With his great strength advantage, he would control the inside when, on the rare occasion, it went that way. His jab is so good, strong and fast, that it would be an unmerciful beatdown.

They all looked great (sometimes more than others) against the lightheavies posing as heavies in their days but the few superheavies who have mastered this sport are a completely different phenomenon.

 

Marciano too or just dempsey?

 

I see Dempsey matching up better with Wladimir than Marciano.

 

He does. Jack was a coiled spring, compared to a striking cobra during his career. Marciano really was The Rock, immovable, but not impossible to stay away from. If he lands though, watch out!

Langford knocked out 6'5" Andre Anderson, and he liked "White meat." Also, Wlad has the face of a dweeb, and I think Sam would have liked to punch it.

 

Oh. Why?

 

If he makes a mistake at the wrong time against Fitz or Choynski then he is going down.

Langford probably has the tools to last long enough to force him to make a mistake.

 

Dempsey is taller, faster and more proven against bigger opponents. He would jump on Wladimir from the beginning with the type of explosiveness that Wladimir has rarely seen against his discouraged opposition while Marciano would take several rounds to work his way in, with Wladimir already having established his pattern of controlling distance with his jabbing, clinching and the occasional right hand.

 

I agree Dempsey had quicker hands and feet than Marciano ,and was a fast starter, he could bring on a panic attack to Wlad ,Rocky's more methodical pressure would probably be smothered by Wlads jab and clinching when Marciano gets close.

 

I dont think Choynski had the chin to hang with Wlad ,and Fitz was rather static, though a very accurate punch placer, he might just be out sized here.

 

I do not think Wlad panics to fast attacks as much as he panics to big hitters with courage, durability and stamina who can take him to exhaustion point, then pour on the pressure(Purrity, Brewster, even Peter I) and in strongest of cases....Marciano.

I have a hard time seeing dempsey simply walking right into this current version of Wlad and blasting him outta there in 1-2 rounds. I do however, can see this defensive cautious version of wlad being pressure and pressured by a relentless fighter and eventually being broken down physically and mentally late...That would be Marciano. Dempsey is not a late round fighter. He is also prone to big right hands, which is Wladimir's best punch.

Taller? Yes.

Faster? Yes

More Powerful, Durable, and Stronger? No

More Proven against big opponents? Well Dempsey did defeat more rated big heavyweights, but I personally do not feel any of the big men dempsey beat can hold a candleshoe to Joe Louis. I think the 51 Louis beats Fulton, Morris, Old Willard, Firpo quite handily. Also, were fighters like Big Bill Wilson and Johnny Skhor any worse than a fighter like Carl Morris? Highly doubt it.

I feel Rocky matches up very well with Wlad. While Dempsey would be more in Wlad's target range with the way he sticks his head out, Marciano will be low and ackward in his crouch...constantly moving his torso. Wlad is not a big uppercut artist and he will have to switch up his whole game plan when facing the rock. Also, Wlad's biggest weakness (Gets exhausted during tenuous moments) is Marciano's biggest strength(Kicks it up into 2nd gear during tenuous moments).

Just because Dempsey punched the **** out of very unimpressive giants men does not make me think he would fare any better against Wladimir than Marciano would. I do think both Dempsey and Marciano beat Wladimir, but I think Rocky holds the edge...slightly. Just my opinion.

Wlad was able to establish his pattern against Brewster, Peter I, Purrity. It just didn't matter. All 3 were able to eventually force Wlad into stormy weather, and Wlad 2 out of the 3 times wilted to the pressure. A non stop torpedo like Marciano is going to eventually break Wlad both mentally and Physically. And don't underestimate Marciano early..if he lands the suzy Q, it's all over. I do think Wlad is an ATG puncher and he very well could take dempsey and Marciano and put their lights out as well.

 

Well the question was "could" not "would".

 

I'd say that the most meaningful loss of Wladimir's career was against Sanders. He may not have been as cautious then, but he was in his late 20's with well over 40 fights and coming off impressive performances. To almost any other fighter that would be their "prime". He was wiped out in just 2 rounds and knocked down a total of 4 times.

The loss to Brewster was simply odd, but cannot be cast aside obviously, and he did win against Peter, although I suspect that if Peter were not as inept a fighter as he is, Wladimir would have been finished in the 10th round.

 

Dempsey, '68-'71 Joe Frazier, '87-'88 Tyson and '58 Patterson(believe it or not) would all be able to elude his jab with "relative" ease and consistently land power shots.

 

I don't think Corrie Sanders on his best day was ever trim.