Overtrained?!?!

The problem is you have some fighters who do argue that, especially when they get starched.... then you have some that argue that who may actually have some truth behind it, Mosley vs Mayweather could be one of those arguements as Mosley was training for how long prepairing for Berto when Suddenly that fight collapsed and he got the call for the Mayweather fight? that can be looked at in that light, the only problem is Mosley isnt one to suggest that happend, he took his loss and moved on.... but very well could have fallen victim to that senario

 

That's the truth of the matter, of course over training exists, but it's always the guy getting starched who complains that he over trained for the fight. It's probably their method of dealing with the gap between perceived success during camp, and their shortfall during the fight.

 

For the most part it's an excuse. But you can over train. The body can take punishment, but it needs time to recover. Most of these guys have been training all their lives, so it should be hard to do, esp. W/ nutritionists & specialists on the team.

 

I think the mane cause of over training happens in boxing due to the fact that a lot of boxers walk around at weights much higher than their fighting weight. One of the reasons I say "natural weight" is bull ****. They spend training camp losing weight. Ideally a boxer is at his peek on fight night. This means he should be at fighting weight well before the weigh in. So he can taper off. If he is not he has to exert his body more than he needs too. The result is that while he might look great. However he is not in the best physical condition.
I'm not an expert but it seems to me that keeping a constant weight at all times or not fighting more at than 5-10 Lbs below your walk around weight. Can do a lot to prevent over training.

 

my point exactly, hatton blows up to about 200 pounds between fights!
i mean even when you're not in a training camp, try to hit the gym 3-5 times a week, that isnt too bad now is it?????

 

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Good point. The whole fact that boxers exercise with weights and lose weight is really like forcing the body to do two opposite things at once. Strength training makes the body gain weight, as muscle weighs more than fat. (Hence why if you hang around in the gym, all the guys who like dinosaurs/steroid freaks are talking about how much weight they've gained, not lost). At the same time boxers are doing everything possible to make their bodies lose weight, sometimes huge amounts of it.

It's actually pretty unhealthy to do this long term. That's why when guys start outgrowing the weight class they're fighting in, they start looking like someone who has been starving.

Also, just the mechanism by which muscles get stronger shows how much damage you can do to your body by working out too much. The way muscles get stronger is that exercising causes tears in the muscle fibers. Your body responds by regrowing those fibers, making them stronger and thicker in an attempt to prevent more tearing. Naturally, anybody trying to stay in shape then ups their exercise regimen to tear the muscles again, and so on. You don't have to be a genius to see how doing too much of it or doing it wrong can screw with you. Not to mention damage to joints, ligaments, etc.

 

If you train too much you won't peak. That's overtraining. It's not training past the point you peaked.

 

A boxer is not going to be able to build muscle while he is in training camp. All strength training is going to do is help a boxer keep strength while losing weight. Best not to comment on things like this if you have no understanding of human physiology