is pac cherrypicking marg?

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  1. AnthonyW

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    Arum is cherrypicking Margarito...Pacquiao implied a couple days back that the Margarito bout had not yet been signed, and there was still time for Mayweather to sign for the November bout.
     
  2. El Intocable

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    I dont know **** yet you're the clueless gimp that comes up with stupid **** like the ones i mentioned,go to the classic where theres posters who have actually seen Lamotta fight live and say dumb **** like fraud beats him ten times out of ten or puts him on his ass in nine and you'll get laughed out of the forum.
     
  3. casian72

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    floyd already made 40 million this year and 1.4 million PPV's, Pac needs this fight to try to get on an even playing field, money wise with Floyd. Fight should happen in may.
     
  4. Toontoon

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    I wouldn't say it was a cherrypick, we know he's fighting him because he's a Top Rank fighter and he's probably the best option available out of the few that fall into that bracket.

    There are better opponents out there at both 147 and 154 but they don't fall into Arum's way of thinking, I was going to say that's not Pacquiao's fault but I suppose it is for letting Arum dictate to him.

    Saying that I doubt they would have put Pacquiao in with him if he was at 147 straight after Margo destroyed Cotto, similar to how they wouldn't put Pac in with Shane after he smashed Marg up.
     
  5. Knives7

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    **** that! :lol: Pacquiao will never be a MW even if he fights at 160.

    But yeah, damn that Fraud Gayrunner. He managed to duck again and his fans are defending him.
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    it is without doubt a cherry pick.

    1) margo had been caught cheating
    2) margo aint licensed to box in the states
    3) it is at a catchweight for a title.
    4) margo's last big name fight was to mosley and he got spanked.
    5) margo's last big name win was vs cotto 2 years ago.
    6) beating some bum in mexico does not earn you a title shot.

    it is a fukin sham. and before anyone pipes in and says it, floyd is ridiculous also. our two p4p stars: one goes on holiday, one fights an unlicensed bum. fukin ridiculous.
     
  7. Lance_Uppercut

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    No, he was cuaght attempting to cheat. Big difference.

    And? What does a license have to do with being cherry picked? WOuld Margarito NOt be carry picked IF he had a license? WHIch he may have by the time the fight comes BTW.

    It's withing the RANGE of JrWM. All weight classes encompass a RANGE, not a single limit.

    True. He got whupped. Personally I would prefer Margarito to have cmae back with a good, solid win. At the same time, that was Shane who did it. Pac isn't guanteed to do the same thing.


    True. See above.

    Earning and title shots do not go together anymore in boxing. Sad to say. :verysad

    At least one of them is fighting a guy STILL seen as dangerous. And Pac will once again be at a huge size disadvantage. That is part of his attratction. Beating the **** outta bigger guys. Guess maybe he coulda called up Juan M Lopez from FW to fight at WW. :D
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    the handwraps where in place, he cheated.

    because, lance, pac is supposedly our p4p number 1 boxer. considering the names currently at 147 and 154, he will, instead of fighting a top ranked opponent/champion, be fighting an unlicensed boxer who hasnt had a significant win in 2 years.

    having a catchweight fight if fine, just dont pretend it makes you a champion. he will be able to masquerade as a 154 title holder even though his opponent wasnt able to weigh 154.

    losing by savage knockout and beating a bum. is this what it comes down to in terms of our best boxer choosing opponents? really is it? ffs if pac is the best we have to offer why is he figting shite like margarito?

    margo is about as dangerous as fukin ivan calderon. it will be a brutally one sided matchup that will hopefully retire the cheating pillock. beating the **** out of margo proves nothing at all. and no, instead of fighting margo, or lopez, what about williams? what about any of the actual belt holders? what about anyone rated in the top 10 from 147-154? it is ridiculous. you know pac isnt some young fighter desperate for his first title, he is the best in our sport and it he shouldnt be having **** fights like this.
     
  9. Lance_Uppercut

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    :lol: Attempted to. He didn't enter the ring with anything different the Mosley. You can argue semantics, but that is the one fact you cannot change. He did NOT cheat in his fight.

    That might all be true, but it doesn't change the fact that Margarito IS a live threat. That's better then fighting a guy with no hope to win from the #1P4P fighter. NOt to mention, this is another weight class, and Pac is again the much smaller man.

    I've said this 100 times already...the weights coem with a RANGE right? You weigh 148 to 154, you are a JrMW. No where has it EVER said you must weigh in at the limit. And if Margarito is fine with it, that's all that matters. It's within the limit, it follows the weight division established that EVERYONE follows.

    Are you of the opinion this will be an easy fight for Pac? Key question. NVM, saw your responce below.

    Ivan ****in Calderon? Please...save the exxagerations. They add nothing to a debate.

    You say beating Margarito proves nothing? Even when Paul WIlliams couldn't. The new NEW Champ couldn't. Cotto, a new JwMW titlist couldn not. Only Shane Mosley did. One guy.

    And since they tried to get the OTHER best guy ion the sport in the ring, and he chose not to fight again, all I can ask for is a good fight. Pac vs. Margarito fits the bill.
     
  10. PIPO23

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    LOL,.

    Margarito Already beat COTTO, MArtinez, and Pwill that was a close fight LOL.

    Bradleys hasn't fought a top Welterweight.His best win to date is .....the G.O.A.T. Kendall HOLT.

    The rest are rubbish. It should have been Floyd or Mosley but Mosley Looked terrible being 39 and all.

    In my analysis this is the 3rd beast of the welterweight division.Don't let that mosley loss fool or cloud your judgement.

    People don't know **** about BOXING, i trust my knowledge and my instinct tells me DIS IS A

    WAR!!



    :tired
     
  11. Caelum

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    Such bull****.

    Arum works for Pac.

    Pac doesn't have to sign on for the fight.

    Are you telling me a top fighter like Pac, a man that has a country bow before him, is a puppet to Bob Arum?

    I thought Pac fights the best in each division?
     
  12. PIPO23

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    Margarito has been in and beat those mofo on that list LOL.
     
  13. Caelum

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    Don't forget Sergio Martinez.
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    tomato - tomato

    i dont see him as a live threat, what has he achieved in the last 2 years? and yes it is a new weight class, so why dont he fight a champ in that weight class? or if he is going for a vacant belt, why not fight a top 10 contender?

    i think catchweight title fights are bs. the limit, like you say is up to 154, the rules shouldnt be changed for one fight, especially one like this. just so he can claim to be an 8 division champion. give me a break.

    i see it being a **** easy fight.

    williams did beat him. there is controversy over cotto's defeat, but nothing has been proven so lets assume he is innocent. yes it was a good win, but it was over 2 years ago. mosley sparked him out and dominated him in lopsided fashion. the win would mean about as much as a victory over vargas or mayorga in november.

    a good fight this will not be. the only upside is that the cheating ***** will get smahsed out of the ring and hopefully out of the sport. will this increase pacmans credibility in the boxing world? will it ****. it is just a manufactured title so he can go down as a champion in another weight class. its a shame because it detracts from how good he is. i hope he defends the belt vs a worthy opponent like he did at WW.

    ive debated this to death with other posters. even put the (attempted:good) cheating and the catchweight to one side. margarito last had a significant win 2 years ago. now for the #1 in our sport, an opponent of this calibre isnt good enough in my eyes. it would be as bad as fighting daniel santos, ricardo mayorga, carlos quintana etc. maybe it is just me, but considering pacman is regarded as the best boxer in the world, he should be taking on a higher level of competition. it wont be competitive, it wont be exciting. there will be satisfaction in the beating margo takes but that is it.
     
  15. Bazooka

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    No sir Manny is fighting the best available