Europe's finest ever vs the USA's finest of the last 35 years

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  1. nufc_jay

    nufc_jay Guest

    Simple poll....

    Who wins? >>>> The best European fighter ever (to be decided amongst yourselves) vs The best fighter to come out of the USA in the last 35 years (also, to be decided amongst yourselves)

    I have limited the USA to the last 35 years otherwise I should imagine the poll would be a little easier....

    So Europe vs USA circa 1975 onwards.....

    Discuss

    :deal
     
    nufc_jay, Aug 13, 2010
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  2. The Joker

    The Joker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    U.S.A wins by a landslide. I'm not even kidding.
     
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  3. DaveyScan

    DaveyScan Active Member Full Member

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    In the last 10 years it would be a better matchup.. but the last 35 years.. USA.
     
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  4. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Huh? By weight???
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    USA and it's not close.:deal
     
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  6. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    best usa fighter of the last 35 years is ray leonard in my opinion, best european is of course the technical wizard and legend sven ottke.
    I think leonard beats him via sd:bbb
     
    cesare-borgia, Aug 13, 2010
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  7. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    I thought Calzaghe already embarrassed RJJ?
     
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  8. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    U.S.A still wins, in our recent years we have recently been crap but europe hasn't been even really been competitive with us until about 2000.
     
    Swarmer, Aug 13, 2010
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  9. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Oh yeah, when Roy was 40 and had been knocked out how many times?

    Good spot:-(
     
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  10. Arran

    Arran Boxing Junkie banned

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    and yet benn was ko'ing americans before 2000
    Bruno was hw champion
    Nazeem was smashing augie sanchez, Kevin Kelly and co

    ....thats just england
     
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  11. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    ****ing hell.

    You alright there Mr Serious?
     
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  12. DaveyScan

    DaveyScan Active Member Full Member

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    Many times many times. Only twice :D.
     
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  13. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    benn never lived up to be anything p4p relevant

    we all know what happened to bruno

    naz never grew a pair of nuts and rematched the guy who took his clowning and turned it into embarassing humiliating defeat

    if you're gonna back a UK fighter from this time period at least back one that actually mattered and is a real ATG:

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    Swarmer, Aug 13, 2010
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  14. Brickhaus

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    HW - Lewis vs. Tyson or Holmes - Lewis beats prime Tyson, IMO, but would have struggled vs. Holmes
    CW - Holyfield vs. Haye - Holyfield easily
    LHW - Jones vs. Michalczewski, Carpentier or Fitzsimmons - Jones easily over DM or Carpentier, assuming prime for prime; who the heck knows with Fitzsimmons, too hard to measure against the eras
    SMW - Calzaghe vs. Jones - Prime for prime, I'd take Jones. I think Calzaghe would have beaten Toney though.
    MW - Hopkins vs. Cerdan - I'd probably pick Hopkins in a very close one, but Cerdan has a good chance
    LMW - Norris vs. Kalule or Dzinziruk? - Either way, Norris wins. I can't think of a great European light middleweight.
    WW - Leonard vs. Kid Lewis - Hard to say because of the eras. Modern rules, Leonard probably wins, but I'm not knowledgeable enough on Lewis to make a call there.
    JWW - Loi vs. Pryor - Hard one to pick for me. I'd probably slightly favor Loi.
    LW - Whitaker vs. Buchanan - Whitaker is a stone cold lock
    JLW - Mayweather vs. Bredahl - That's got to be a joke.
    Feather - Hamed vs. Gainer? - Hamed probably takes it
    SBW - Junior Jones vs. Monshipour?? - Jones easy. Can't think of a good European ever in the weight class.
    BW - Ayala vs. Kid Francis? - No clue
    SFL - Tapia vs. Darchinyan - Tapia in a war
    FL - Wilde vs. Mark Johnson - Wilde easy
    JFL - Carbajal vs. Asloum - Carbajal with no problems
    MW - Not worth it, all the good fighters have come from Asia, Africa or Latin America

    US still probably takes it though.
     
    Brickhaus, Aug 13, 2010
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  15. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    What are you talking about?

    Read the post! I agreed with you:D
     
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