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Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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PH|LLA said: ↑

your picture shows that Marquez only outlanded Pac in 5 out of 12 rounds. atsch

This is what people called "Marquez schooling Pacquiao"

double standards
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The point of my picture is that Marquez was able to cut down emmanuel's punch output by throwing a Mayweatheresque volume of punches.atsch

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Gander Tasco said: ↑

Been watching tape of Floyd particularly the DLH fight. Floyd just looks ordinary anytime he's fighting someone with good boxing skills and size/speed. He doesn't know how to put punches together to create openings, can't take a punch, he freaks out under pressure, especially if he gets hit, and goes into a shell. Pac is faster with his hands and feet. He's younger. He's really stylistic hell for Floyd right now. I don't know how anyone can't see this. Floyd's also slowing down now, he's getting older and his agility/athleticism isn't what it once was. That was always his crutch in his fights, but he never fought any fighters who could expose this (except for a prime Castillo who beat him, and an old DLH who made him look one dimensional). Even Ricky HAtton took him 10 rounds and made it competitive for a while. A younger prime Hoya and Mosley would have beaten him rather easily. I guarantee you Pac will completely expose him if they ever meet (which won't happen bc Floyd knows what's in store for him). What more evidence do you need that he's afraid then all of this blood testing nonsense, and going back into retirement after he's made a pile of money. He's got no reason to fight Pac right now.

The main thing is Pac's speed, athleticism which is superior to floyd right now. His footwork will drive Floyd nuts, and Floyd has absolutely no answer for Pac's offense, at all. He doesn't throw enough, do enough, and he simply doesn't know how to take a risk which he's gonna need to do to have any chance against Pac. To put it bluntly, he doesn't have the balls to deal with Pac. He's get destroyed rather easily.

I'll put a lifetime bet on the line if this fight comes along that not only Pac beats him but absolutely dominates him and makes him look silly. Floyd is the most overated boxer in history. Even defensively he's overrated. Hopkins has a better, more dynamic defense. Don't get me started on Whitaker and many others. A guy who can't even string together 3 punches can never be called a great boxer. He's a great potshot artist, but that's a one-dimensional style that'll get exposed against the right opponent.
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I agree that Pacquiao would beat Mayweather but dude Mayweather is only 1 year older than Pacquiao.

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Boxing expert gander tasco failed to see that Floyd's potshots didn't do much to Oscar, because Oscar has good defense courtesy of his excellent hand placement. You need to throw moar than just one punch potshots to split through that type of guard.

manny is easier to hit compared to Oscar. He also has a brawler mentality which leads him to be extra offensive compared to Oscar's moar defensively oriented boxer style. All of emmanuel's offense will create opportunities for Floyd to land clean counters.

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The TS got owned by like 12 people in this thread!

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Gander Tasco said: ↑

Been watching tape of Floyd particularly the DLH fight. Floyd just looks ordinary anytime he's fighting someone with good boxing skills and size/speed. He doesn't know how to put punches together to create openings, can't take a punch, he freaks out under pressure, especially if he gets hit, and goes into a shell. Pac is faster with his hands and feet. He's younger. He's really stylistic hell for Floyd right now. I don't know how anyone can't see this. Floyd's also slowing down now, he's getting older and his agility/athleticism isn't what it once was. That was always his crutch in his fights, but he never fought any fighters who could expose this (except for a prime Castillo who beat him, and an old DLH who made him look one dimensional). Even Ricky HAtton took him 10 rounds and made it competitive for a while. A younger prime Hoya and Mosley would have beaten him rather easily. I guarantee you Pac will completely expose him if they ever meet (which won't happen bc Floyd knows what's in store for him). What more evidence do you need that he's afraid then all of this blood testing nonsense, and going back into retirement after he's made a pile of money. He's got no reason to fight Pac right now.

The main thing is Pac's speed, athleticism which is superior to floyd right now. His footwork will drive Floyd nuts, and Floyd has absolutely no answer for Pac's offense, at all. He doesn't throw enough, do enough, and he simply doesn't know how to take a risk which he's gonna need to do to have any chance against Pac. To put it bluntly, he doesn't have the balls to deal with Pac. He's get destroyed rather easily.

I'll put a lifetime bet on the line if this fight comes along that not only Pac beats him but absolutely dominates him and makes him look silly. Floyd is the most overated boxer in history. Even defensively he's overrated. Hopkins has a better, more dynamic defense. Don't get me started on Whitaker and many others. A guy who can't even string together 3 punches can never be called a great boxer. He's a great potshot artist, but that's a one-dimensional style that'll get exposed against the right opponent.
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!!!!!!

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cuchulain said: ↑

Too much wrong with this post. It's hard to know where to begin.

Floyd cannot be exposed, even if he loses to Pac. He has too much accomplishment already under his belt.

IMO, Floyd has the edge over Pac (very slight edge) in most areas of the game.

Some of your points are a real stretch.

He freaks out under pressure ?
He can't take a punch ?

I would agree that he quite probably have lost to prime versions of Oscar and Shane, but that's not a certainty.

The one point in your post I do agree with is that Floyd clearly fears Pac. It is obvious he's avoided him. Twice.

And this could be the equalizer if they ever meet.
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Post started out well and then trailed off. The thread starter is a troll, so I won't bother to pick apart what he said.

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Gander Tasco said: ↑

Been watching tape of Floyd particularly the DLH fight. Floyd just looks ordinary anytime he's fighting someone with good boxing skills and size/speed. He doesn't know how to put punches together to create openings, can't take a punch, he freaks out under pressure, especially if he gets hit, and goes into a shell. Pac is faster with his hands and feet. He's younger. He's really stylistic hell for Floyd right now. I don't know how anyone can't see this. Floyd's also slowing down now, he's getting older and his agility/athleticism isn't what it once was. That was always his crutch in his fights, but he never fought any fighters who could expose this (except for a prime Castillo who beat him, and an old DLH who made him look one dimensional). Even Ricky HAtton took him 10 rounds and made it competitive for a while. A younger prime Hoya and Mosley would have beaten him rather easily. I guarantee you Pac will completely expose him if they ever meet (which won't happen bc Floyd knows what's in store for him). What more evidence do you need that he's afraid then all of this blood testing nonsense, and going back into retirement after he's made a pile of money. He's got no reason to fight Pac right now.

The main thing is Pac's speed, athleticism which is superior to floyd right now. His footwork will drive Floyd nuts, and Floyd has absolutely no answer for Pac's offense, at all. He doesn't throw enough, do enough, and he simply doesn't know how to take a risk which he's gonna need to do to have any chance against Pac. To put it bluntly, he doesn't have the balls to deal with Pac. He's get destroyed rather easily.

I'll put a lifetime bet on the line if this fight comes along that not only Pac beats him but absolutely dominates him and makes him look silly. Floyd is the most overated boxer in history. Even defensively he's overrated. Hopkins has a better, more dynamic defense. Don't get me started on Whitaker and many others. A guy who can't even string together 3 punches can never be called a great boxer. He's a great potshot artist, but that's a one-dimensional style that'll get exposed against the right opponent.
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Well said. :good

ryan_c, Aug 13, 2010

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Shane's not only faster than Pacquiao, but he's about 1000x times more accurate with his shots. And he probably punches about 5x as hard.

Pacquiao's not very accuracte. And struggles to land any shots of note against skilled guys, with good defense.

Look at the Clottey bout. He landed 11% of his shots!?
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You must be a ballerina, cuz you don't know **** about boxing

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Leon said: ↑

Boxing expert gander tasco failed to see that Floyd's potshots didn't do much to Oscar, because Oscar has good defense courtesy of his excellent hand placement. You need to throw moar than just one punch potshots to split through that type of guard.

manny is easier to hit compared to Oscar. He also has a brawler mentality which leads him to be extra offensive compared to Oscar's moar defensively oriented boxer style. All of emmanuel's offense will create opportunities for Floyd to land clean counters.
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I wish that ****** would sign the fight so you dumbass *****s can STFU for good :-(

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Real_Truth said: ↑

I wish that ****** would sign the fight so you dumbass *****s can STFU for good :-(
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Hey ******* by keeping this thread going you are only embarrassing your fellow ******* Gander even more!!!!

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Pac will finish what Shane Mosley did not finish in the second round.

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Pac will inflict Floy a world of hurt..

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This is probably one of worst thread i have ever seen by a poster on ESB, how do you expose a 6 time world champion at 5 different weight classes?

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Gander Tasco said: ↑

Been watching tape of Floyd particularly the DLH fight. Floyd just looks ordinary anytime he's fighting someone with good boxing skills and size/speed. He doesn't know how to put punches together to create openings, can't take a punch, he freaks out under pressure, especially if he gets hit, and goes into a shell. Pac is faster with his hands and feet. He's younger. He's really stylistic hell for Floyd right now. I don't know how anyone can't see this. Floyd's also slowing down now, he's getting older and his agility/athleticism isn't what it once was. That was always his crutch in his fights, but he never fought any fighters who could expose this (except for a prime Castillo who beat him, and an old DLH who made him look one dimensional). Even Ricky HAtton took him 10 rounds and made it competitive for a while. A younger prime Hoya and Mosley would have beaten him rather easily. I guarantee you Pac will completely expose him if they ever meet (which won't happen bc Floyd knows what's in store for him). What more evidence do you need that he's afraid then all of this blood testing nonsense, and going back into retirement after he's made a pile of money. He's got no reason to fight Pac right now.

The main thing is Pac's speed, athleticism which is superior to floyd right now. His footwork will drive Floyd nuts, and Floyd has absolutely no answer for Pac's offense, at all. He doesn't throw enough, do enough, and he simply doesn't know how to take a risk which he's gonna need to do to have any chance against Pac. To put it bluntly, he doesn't have the balls to deal with Pac. He's get destroyed rather easily.

I'll put a lifetime bet on the line if this fight comes along that not only Pac beats him but absolutely dominates him and makes him look silly. Floyd is the most overated boxer in history. Even defensively he's overrated. Hopkins has a better, more dynamic defense. Don't get me started on Whitaker and many others. A guy who can't even string together 3 punches can never be called a great boxer. He's a great potshot artist, but that's a one-dimensional style that'll get exposed against the right opponent.
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I think Pac will destroy Mayweather. People keep talking about Mayweather's vaunted defense, my ass. The man can be hit. The 38 yr old Shane Mosley broke from the script and proved that. Except Pacquiao isn't going to MYSTERIOUSLY quit punching. Mayweather's defense isn't going to dissaude or demoralize Pacquiao. He'll keep punching.

And the reason he'll keep punching is, I know that Mayweather's 1 or 2 pot shots aren't going to hurt Pacquiao. Mayweather won't be the hardest puncher Pacquiao has ever faced, by far. And for those of you that can't face it, Mayweather hasn't been tested at the very least since the Dela Hoya fight. Any fighter will have a tendency to lose an edge and Pacquiao will be there to exploit it.

Now on the other hand, Mayweather himself likes to remind everybody how great he is... blah...blah... self aggrandizing statement.. blah... blah... "you can't hit what you can't touch... blah... blah... Pure narcassism. Typical of Mayweather. Except there's an obvious disconnect between his mouth and legs. A man that fancies himself being the best for some mysterious reason doesn't want to make tons of money, while proving it against a boxer he claims wouldn't be a challange.

There's no GOOD reason why this fight isn't happening this year, NONE except the obvious and it ain't because of Pacquiao...

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I think Pac will destroy Mayweather. People keep talking about Mayweather's vaunted defense, my ass. The man can be hit. The 38 yr old Shane Mosley broke from the script and proved that.
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. Mayweather's defense isn't going to dissaude or demoralize Pacquiao. He'll keep punching.

And the reason he'll keep punching is, I know that Mayweather's 1 or 2 pot shots aren't going to hurt Pacquiao. Mayweather won't be the hardest puncher Pacquiao has ever faced, by far. And for those of you that can't face it, Mayweather hasn't been tested at the very least since the Dela Hoya fight. Any fighter will have a tendency to lose an edge and Pacquiao will be there to exploit it.

Now on the other hand, Mayweather himself likes to remind everybody how great he is... blah...blah... self aggrandizing statement.. blah... blah... "you can't hit what you can't touch... blah... blah... Pure narcassism. Typical of Mayweather. Except there's an obvious disconnect between his mouth and legs. A man that fancies himself being the best for some mysterious reason doesn't want to make tons of money, while proving it against a boxer he claims wouldn't be a challange.

There's no GOOD reason why this fight isn't happening this year, NONE except the obvious and it ain't because of Pacquiao...
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The reason Mosley stopped throwing punches after round 2 is because whenever he did throw, he missed and got a fist to the face every time he did. This will be the reason why Pacquiao won't throw as many punches as usual

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