Who is the 3rd Best Heavyweight of All Time???

I amuses me no end when people insinuate they have a great command of language and then resort to emoticons to express themselves. What you said was (and I quote): "he never fought anyone worth a mention neither (sic)"
Which is really really stupid and merely goes to show you don't have the slightest idea of what you're talking about.
Odious little ****.

 

All are miles above Tyson

 

Lewis, then Holmes, and then Foreman

 

This is my Top20. I finally found it.


1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Lennox Lewis
4. Larry Holmes
5. Jack Johnson
6. Jack Dempsey
7. Rocky Marciano
8. Evander Holyfield
9. George Foreman
10. Joe Frazier
11. Mike Tyson
12. Wladimir Klitschko
13. Sonny Liston
14. Ezzard Charles
15. James Jeffries
16. Jersey Joe Walcott
17. Harry Wills
18. Riddick Bowe
19. Max Schmeling
20. Floyd Patterson

 

Clay
Holmes
Dempsey

 

Probably the best list I saw on this forum. :think

 

Holmes, all day long!

 

If that's a list of how great they were in their respective day, it's fine and dandy. If it's a list of how they would do against each other h2h, it's absolute shite.

re the constant questions about what did Tyson do, what did Liston do... both of them fought better competition than Louis. The fact that Louis is still so popular just shows the power of the wartime propaganda campaign lol... and the aftereffects of the Fight of the Century.

Liston and Tyson both cleaned out their divisions, absolutely obliterating everyone who stood in their way until they reached the top. Liston would have been champ YEARS earlier if he had been given a shot against Patterson, another very weak HW champ who was doing everything he could to stay out of Sonny's way. Had Ali not come along, Sonny would have been champ for several more years, which is a testament to him considering that he didn't even get the belt until he was well past his best days. It's just his typical bad luck that Ali came along when he did.

With Tyson, you have to trust your eyes and what you know about him. You saw the ridiculous speed, the ridiculous power, the excellent defensive skills, the quick feet, the fluid combinations, the head movement, the killer instinct. Later on we found out about the chin. Make your own judgement. imo no fighter in the world from any period is a lock to beat a prime young Tyson on any given night, and I can count on one hand the number of fighters I would favor over him. I don't even need my whole hand.

Foreman used to spar with Sonny and said that Liston was the only fighter who ever turned him into a cute boxer, backing up and moving from side to side trying to get away from Sonny's sledgehammer jab. He had a longer reach than Lennox Lewis and debateably hit harder, with a better chin (up until the 2nd Ali fight).

Liston was a ****ing monster.

 

Foreman would have flattened Holmes, Lewis, and Tyson.

 

Maybe not though Lennox and Holmes both had the best jabs of all time and superb boxing skills its possible they could outbox foreman on their best nights even though a ko victory is posible for Foreman.The style match up dosent suit well for tyson though.Foreman is the hardest puncher in heavyweight history,he has a great chin and tysons agressive come forward style could play right into foremans hands.

 

Lewis

 

I would have Marciano at top. Tyson, Louis, and Dempsey are 4 top IMO. I notice a lot of Lewis-Holmes-Foreman support, plus ALi. Do some people throw out anyone prior to 1970? Also Klitschkos have never held whole title, just belts.

 

1.) Ali
2.) Louis
3.) Johnson
4.) Holmes
5.) Foreman
6.) Lewis
7.) Frazier
8.) Holyfield
9.) Marciano
10.) Liston

 

Other than an ageing Jersey Joe Wallcott who did he fight worth a mention?
Twat... calling people stupid with no intelligent debate to back up your insults. If you're going to slate my boxing knowledge at least try to show some of your own :hey twat

 

Marciano's generation was more competitive than any that came after till year 1990 when former communist country fighters were allowed to turn pro. There were many more pro fighters active, and boxing was second biggest sport in country behind baseball. It may have been as big as baseball.

Charles was not old, he was still in prime, just cause he lost to Marciano did not make him old. Walcott was champ, and was still showing no signs of having slowed down.