max baer short film demonstrating his skills.

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  1. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    a bit corny but the footage is good. baer looks in good shape and shows some moves. often wrongly writen off as a clown i would be intrested in what you think...
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    choklab, Aug 16, 2010
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  2. Nicky P

    Nicky P Jamiva Boxing Full Member

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    the most interesting piece was when he showed off his Mongoose defense.
     
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  3. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    i know! I think he used it against louis once he was stung, but this shows it was more a part of his game than we thought. it adds a few more dimentions to him. he clearly must have used more than is known from his filmed fights.
     
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  4. Boxed Ears

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    Thank you for posting that. It's a win of a thread. Never saw it. :happy
     
    Boxed Ears, Aug 17, 2010
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  5. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    If a fighter beats the best of his era then he probably isnt that stupid.

    If Baer was as crude as some of his critics on this site claim then Max Schmeling would have beaten him and Primo Carnera would have beten him. These are not the kind of fighters that you will get past just by having a dynamite punch and a solid chin.
     
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  6. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    With Baer it´s just with most fighters with a big punch. They get reduced to just that.
     
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  7. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    exactly, the man had tools. there was a lot of talent back then, to stand out he had to be good. pity the big punch overshadowed what else he had.
     
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  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Old thread but still worth a look.
     
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  9. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Doing something with a compliant partner and pulling it off in the ring are two drastically different undertakings. Max fell in love with his power and knew hot to get it over on most of the opponents he faced (say what you will about them). Other than that, he didn't seem too concerned with the finer points.
     
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  10. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Stop right here.

    Baer was the heavyweight champion of the world. Let’s not act like he wasn’t genuine in his demonstrations. Why even phrase it like this? Kinda screwed up to me.
     
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    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Baer demonstrates many non skilled moments on film in actual fights. He could get away with it due his toughness and chin and at times the level of his opposition but when faced with an elite operator like Louis he didn't have a single solution.
     
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  12. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    He staggered Louis a few times. But yeah, very bad stylistic matchup for him, especially considering Louis is second best HW of all time.

    If you want to see Baers skills, the Carnera fight might be the best place to go, especially because there are some very clear versions of the film.
     
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  13. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Baer clearly had natural boxing skills, despite going drunk with power at times.

    https://streamable.com/21zla

    The combination of footwork, head movement, reflexes, punching pace, and punching angles shows a man with skills.
     
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  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Maybe you could ask yourself how on Earth your modern enhanced Herculean examples might fare against an elite operator like Louis?

    What technical solution would they have to Louis second guessing their moves and beating them to the draw?

    Any fighter is only as good as the other man let’s him look.

    Don’t forget Baer knocked out the guy who exposed Joe Louis. Baer clearly had something about him.
     
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  15. Grapefruit

    Grapefruit Active Member Full Member

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    Max Baer was a juggernaut. We didn' see anything like him again until foreman
     
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