Floyd Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao @ 147

atsch Really? Nothing intelligent with Manny's style? I think it's your lack of intelligence in the sweet science that is what's lacking bro. Manny isn't a WILD swinging brawler homie. Not even close. he's a figher that uses a wide variety of offense that is SET UP intelligently with a lot of footwork and angles.

If all Manny has is a Punchers chance Floyd would have already beaten Manny. Unfortunately Floyd doesn't have the same mentality you do which is why Floyd has reservations from making this fight reality. Floyd isn't dumb but he is looking a bit scurrd. That's not something I'm use to seeing from Floyd.

 

Bored. So so bored.

 

Floyd UD

 

The style really is a thing of beauty and was built and geared to beat floyd. Whether landing or not landing the look of it was made to beat floyd. Sadly I think it will not even come close to beating him.

Alot of manny's fans think nothing can stop him. I beg to differ and here is why.

I see Floyd vs pac playing out in a simular fashion as all of floyd's fights. The first 3-4 rounds will be close and anxious, then floyd will figure pac out and make it a normal nothing special fight.

From what I saw in the clottey fight to what I saw in the marquez fights, I feel the weakness is still there and floyd can definately be the one to bring it full circle. When pacman was throwing punches, clottey sat in the shell and would only return one punch at a time in various spots far and in between. When clottey did throw while pac was attacking, he would snap pac's head back and go right back into the shell. Clottey wouldn't throw more than one punch until pac stopped swinging and took a break with his arms up. When pac took these little breaks, clottey couldn't do anything because pac was being defensive and saw everything coming. Clottey should have thrown more than one punch everytime he felt himself land on Pac. Those 4-7 punches per round could have turned into 12-21 punches landed per round. Obviously clottey didn't have the sack or gameplan to do this. It's like he never watched any of the marquez fights. If clottey would have made pac pay then pac wouldn't have been attacking like a madman breaking his punch output record. He would have slowed down and faught at a pace closer to his USUAL 70 punches per round instead of 100+, and most likely wouldn't have thrown that many if he were countered effectively.

When he fights mayweather that counter right hand landing is coming faster and harder than what was thrown by clottey followed by a left hook (before pac refocuses) and then another straight right. Pac is gonna slow down and start fighting a usual mayweather fight after mayweather makes him pay consistantly. Freddy roach will be pulling his hair out and yelling at pac what to do only to see pac go out there and repeat the process for 8 or 9 rounds straight. Not to mention he has never faced anyone near his speed and he is gonna be very cautous. This is why he didn't come at marquez like a mad man the entire fight, because marquez threw combinations when he landed which made pac box instead of fighting super aggressively as he does. Mayweather can do this far better than marquez and will make manny reluctant. It will end up being a typical, dominate PBF UD. I think he will even be putting a strong emphasis on knocking manny out once he slows manny down.

 

Who are these two guys you mentioned about having a fight???

 

this guys a ****ing Idiot

 

I asked Leonard Ellerbe about it. He's never heard of this fight either.

 

ellerbe KO's the ref, WWE style, allowing floyd to KO manny with a chair....ref is revived in time to make the ten count


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Floyds footwork will prove to be too much for Pac..Floyd will slow the tempo of the fight and probably make it a boxing match...Floyd will be able to counter manny easier than JMM was able to as his timing is just as good and he is a lot quicker..not to mention he will have a nice reach advantage....

Footwork and ring generalship is key in this fight and floyd has the better footwork coupled with the better technical skills so he should catch manny coming in or take a wide ud

 

Manny is beatable....he's very vunerable not b/c he lacks skills but based on his style of fighting he's very active and always producing offense and when you are that active you leave yourself open. THe problem for most is they can't cope with PAC's speed, unorthodox style and explosiveness. It's all too overwhelming b/c of how dynamic PAC is as a fighter with a **** load of talent and tools.

I think Manny will start off strong and maintain that momentum where Floyd begins to acclimate to Manny's speed and will start finding timing by mid fight....but I still don't think that is gonna be enough. THe difference with Manny and all the other fighters who have had early success with Floyd is the fact that Manny stays on the gas even if he's eating some shots.

Manny is not a fighter with a set rhythm...he's always bouncing in and out, left to right and always throwing at very odd angles that his opponents are use to. Floyd will have a very hard time with that.

Floyd is a fighter who anticipates his opponents next move....with Manny that ain't gonna be easy and that's where I think Floyd is gonna have his problems. He won't be able to sustain momentum when he gets it b/c Manny will offset his rhythm by not being "predictable".

Floyd isn't a combination puncher which would be a benefit to him in there with PAC and Floyd isn't consistant offesnsivley to keep PAC on Defense. When PAC is able to control pace....he wins! One or two shots at a time...pot shotting....it's not a formula to beat Manny.

Now due to Floyd's incredible talent and speed he'll have success and make it competitive. He'll be able to win rounds and cause Manny some problems but I don't think it will be enough based purely on his style of fighitng.

Josh had very limited success in his fight with Manny...he simply was in survival mode and didn't want to get KO'd which he knew would happen if he opened up more. The limited success that he did have was based more on MANNY baiting Josh in and left himself open where josh was able to land here and there. But Manny by large allowed for that to happend to give Josh some confidnce in hopes that he'd open up more to allow for Manny to counter.....unfortunately Josh didn't and was fine with lasting 12 even if he produced almost nothing in way of offense.

IF the fight does end early it will be b/c Floyd is knocked out but I don't see this fight ending within the distance. Floyd will not allow for that to happen. He much rather lose on his feet than by going out on his shield. The JMM that faced Manny at 126 and 130 was a different JMM that faced Floyd at 146 and the Manny that beat JMM at the lighter weights is definitly NOT the PAC we see before us today.

It's gonna be a good, close and competitive fight but Manny should win the UD in clear fashion. I thnk Floyd will gain some respect in the lost b/c he'll be forced to fight when he finds it difficutl to just "Box" based on Manny's style and ability.

 

completely agree with everything...unfortunately, the only response *******s have to this is "well why is he on vacation?".."if onyl floyd was as confident in himself as you are"..etc etc.....no real technical input on how manny will beat him. they seem to think manny will rush in there like a whirlwind and throw thousands of punches and KO floyd.....not gonna happen....floyd has ways of lowering not only a persons punch output, but their punch connect rate. if you look at this style wise...and styles makes fights....floyds style is much more suited to beating manny, than manny's style is to beating floyd. Considering the reach advantage floyd has, manny simply wont be able to jump in there with his 5-6 punch combos and not expect to get countered to death.

 

Never heard of these guys.

 

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see now that is a nice reasonable response on how he would beat floyd....still though it seems to come down to "he's fast and is going to jump in and out with combo's"....and all that does is play into floyd's hand. FMJ has no problem making it a boring fight where he dances around the ring catching manny as he tries to bunny hop in...pac will always feel the need to fight and give the fans a show...and unfortunately that will be his undoing if this fight ever goes down.

 

Good post, Charlie.