Uncle Roger - "I'm sure you'll see Floyd fight before year is out"

"pacquiao is taking a-side meth" - roger

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roger is the ****ing truth!!! :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

See...I love money just as much as the next guy. But in boxing Money should be secondary to building a legacy for a talent and fighter like Floyd. The money is gonna be there regardless when you have tools, ability and god given gifts that set you apart from almost everyone else.

I'm not knocking Floyd for wanting to make money and I hear the man loud and clear when he says legacy doesn't pay bills. But that to me considering his ability to make money in or out of the sport doesn't really hit home for me. Floyd can have BOTH! But money won't last for ever but the stamp you leave on this earth and particularily in the sport of boxing will last forever!

And PAC isn't avoiding the tests at all...he had one stipulation that was a major sticking point for Floyd! But the entire demand in itself was a bigger problem all together. The condition of when the last random test could be adminsiter was just a by product of the bigger problem.

And I do agree if Manny is gonna do the test....DO IT! Or walk the **** away which it seems he has. But NOT without making it clear that he still wants to face Floyd. The problem is both men are sticking to their guns on the one hold up in this situation.

I jsut don't understand "WHY". None of what is logical to me and what makes sense to MOST understand Floyd rational. It has only been a major problem in making the fight and there's nothing solid to support the demands to begin with. Yet negotiations still happened b/c PAC wanted to meet Floyd half way and Floyd has been pushing that line. So it's almost like No matter what Manny does or says Floyd will have anther obstacle to set up to block this fight from becoming reality. Just how I see things..

 

Good point... But Bald is right on some level as well. The USADA and WADA testing measures are better than what they have right now in place but they are so expensive and unrealistic to enforce boxing wide. Daily urine testing is the best way to catch a cheat which MANNY did agree to but that's NOT what USADA and WADA do. It's not a DAILY testing....that would be far too expensive for them! They do random and that is helpful but not full proof.

 

Actually ALL the test would be random...INCLUDING the blood tests! It's just the blood tests would be LIMITED as it is anyway and PAC wanted a deadline for the last test no closer than 24 days. But the unlimited Urine test were always agreed to but Floyd wants BLOOD tests more than anything else which is where I don't fully understand.

 

yes i get your point but you dont go out babling about how someone is dirty just because he doesnt conform to USADA testing.

 

man i cant believe people still hang on the "random" blood testing issue like its a ****ing lifeline -.-

oh and if floyd fights any other guy other than pac.. that just makes it clear that he is infact ducking the man

 

110% I agree with that. But even so......that would have been 10 times better had Floyd went that route rather than CREATE the allegations that he knew he couldn't support which was the foundation of the USADA demands to begin with! But yea....I'm not buying what Floyd is selling when it comes to this situation.

 

Are you this dense?

There was nothing for Pac to offer. The only concession was 14 days which is NOT USADA testing!

I don't need to give you anything. It doesn't matter. What matters is what the fighters want to make the fight. In the previous case FMJ wanted random blood and urine with a 14 day cut off. In the next case FMJ wanted random blood and urine administered by the USADA (no cut off).

Pac obviously didn't want to fight because he dodged both. If you WANT the fight you agree.

There is no advantage or disadvantage as they are doing the EXACT SAME testing. Advantages are irrelevant when testing is EQUAL.

 

I think it's already pretty clear that he's ducking Pacquiao.

Floyd knows Pac will be a serious test that he has a good chance of failing.

Think about it:

Floyd "MONEY" Mayweather is all about the cash. However, he's walked away from $60+ million in two separate negotiations to fight Pac. Once because of drug testing, and a second time because he's on vacation.

Floyd has called Pac an "easy night's work." Roger says, "he's a **** fighter, and we'll dominate him." Yet, on the other hand, Pacquiao just can't be this good, he must be on steroids, or a-side meth.

The writing is on the wall, in plain English for those who CHOOSE to read it.

Floyd will never fight Pacquiao. It's too risky of a fight.

 

lemme give you a simple analogy mate:

if you are afraid of heights and i ask you to fight me on top of MGM, then said if you really wanna fight me then agree to fight me on top of MGM we will be both be standing on top of it, im not requesting you to do something that i wouldnt do right? you get my point? :hi:

 

Honestly, the daily urine test would be MORE expensive than full USADA testing and virtually IMPOSSIBLE.

The person would most likely have to have some type of certification. My guess is multiple certifications due to the magnitude of this and the fact they are a professional drug tester. So the EXACT same person doing USADA would be doing urine only DAILY.

So now looking at this economically, who is going to pay for a guy to punch in on a clock DAILY, find the boxer, drive to location, take the sample, and do the processing? Who is going to pay for the lab tests on EVERY unique urine sample? For an 8 week camp that would be 56 lab tests! USADA testing only did a total of about 8 TOTAL.

It is completely unreasonable and Pac's people knew it. Just like it is unreasonable to ask the commission to change the rules for EVERY fight. Just like it was unreasonable to talk to the press constantly, but then say "no comment" when asked about drug testing details. Arum is doing a masterful job at media manipulation.

The sad part is that non of Pac's fans seem to have the intelligence to actually think, "What if..." about some of the dumbness Pac/Arum keep throwing out there.

 

So now the professional fighter that blood tests before EVERY fight, does regular yearly tests, and has tattoos is "scared"?

I see what is wrong with me talking to you...

 

It's the same ole same ole Floyd is a coward comments from the same ole *******s...lol. Day in and day out you feel the need to call a fighter a coward, and you've never boxed. It would be best if you said this after both were retired, but since they aren't, and can still fight, you guys try to be friends, and see who can top who by creating a vivid 'Floyd is coward' image with words lol... Same ole same ole lol... Your hero *******s is the only one between Floyd and PAc who has lost 3 times two by ko in 3 rounds lol...

 

mate that is analogy don't apply it any boxer or who ever just an example to show you that just because were doing the same doesnt mean to results are the same you get what im saying? you might not have a problem after giving some blood, but what if i do fell weak for lets say a day hence i didnt train right for the fight because someone poke me in my vien randomly while ill train for the biggest fight of my life? would you really risk it just to make the fight? or should i say just to get that MOLAH?

 

I wonder who he would fight if he fought again this year. Martinez and Williams are caught up with one another. Tim Bradley isn't that great at 147. Cotto has to go beat up Chavez.