Carl Froch vs Arthur Abraham: Opinions/fight analysis?

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  1. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    The big thing that worries me about Froch is he seems to be a fighter that is getting worse with every fight. His best performance IMO was when he fought Brian McGee. Go back and watch that fight and pay attention to his work rate and hand position. He keeps his hands much higher durring that fight and he is much more rambunctious, fighting with more energy, applying more pressure and throwing more combinations then he has in any fight since. The problem for me is that everything I just mentioned he's been progressively doing less and less of with each successive fight since. His last performance was just abismal. These days he is definitely looking to limit the pace of his fights by making them more technical affairs and he is looking for single shots as opposed to combinations.

    Given this trend I expect Froch to try to work behind a flicking jab while trying to pick off AA with single shots. I can see him winning a decision this way but I doubt its going to happen. I see him losing a close UD. He's one of the strongest SMWs ever so I don't see him getting knocked out by a slower fighter.


    Its too bad Froch is by far the oldest guy in this Tournament b/c I'd have a pretty easy time picking the Froch that beat McGee and PAScal to beat AA by picking him off with the Jab and racking up points with decent combinations. AA doesn't punch when he's getting hit so bsically I see beating him as a matter of being able to rack up enough points in each round and being able to survive the fight. AA is a slow clubbing fighter and I think you'll all be suprised by Froch`s ability to go 12 rounds with him. But I just don`t see Froch being able to out point AA if he doesn`t improve on his last performance.
     
  2. jonnytightlips

    jonnytightlips Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tough gruelling fight but I see Abraham stopping Froch late on.
     
  3. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is no way in hell Abraham is a better pure boxer than Froch.

    Abraham is the defenition of a slugger. He doesn't want to throw that many punches, he doesn't use his legs very much to get away. And he needs his opponent to stand in front of him so he can get his shots off.

    He is looking for one big shot.

    He's not there to put rounds in the bank, and he's not there to out work you. He's there to knock you out.

    Froch is a boxer puncher. He's going to do his best to keep Abraham on the outside, if he's smart, he'll go to his body when he has the opportunity to get in and get out. And he'll stay away from Abraham's power, and avoid making it a brawl.

    I do agree that Abraham has shorter, more concise punches, but he is no boxer.
     
  4. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tough to call him a brawler he has a tremendous defense and throws smart well planned shots. That is what is deceiving about him. He also happens to have tremendous power and a granite chin. Froch has the worst possible opponent style wise here.
     
  5. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I didn't call him a brawler. I called him a slugger.

    Just because your natural syle is that of a slugger, doesn't mean that you don't posses other intangibles.

    Not every slugger holds his hands at his sides and swings for the fences until they gas out.

    He fights intelligently, but at the end of the day he has the slugger mentality. He wants to end your night short.

    And I'm not sure I agree with you because Froch has very underrated boxing skills. If Froch sticks to a solid gameplan and avoids getting into a war, he could win this fight by a relatively wide decision.

    He has to keep Abraham on the outside, and keep him from getting close. But that's a tough thing to do because Abraham is very patient and will absorb punches on his guard for a long period of time before opening up.

    It will be a tough fight and honestly, I wouldn't bet on it.

    But if I had to give a call, I would say Froch by UD.
     
  6. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't see aa beating Froch. I think abraham's style is right for Froch to look good. Froch will outwork him and possibly stop him late.
     
  7. Nosbor

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    Man I cannot wait for this fight. Two guys who love to fight. At least this one will not contain some American ***** who avoids exchanges and has basically no ability to KO anyone of consequence. Not unlike what the two major networks have been force feeding us as of late.
     
  8. timmyjames

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    froch is going to have to move to win this, and i just don't know if he can

    if he pulls this off, i hate the guy, but he will get mad credit
     
  9. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Lol you're nuts.
     
  10. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Froch can actually box pretty well. You don't beat guys like Dirrell and Pascal with no boxing ability unless you're a great inside fighter which Froch is not.

    What hinders Froch is when he's on the inside, his punches aren't thrown short and crisp enough, he can sometimes be caught off balance, and he lacks elite handspeed.

    The fundamentals are there though. He is an intelligent fighter, but he just needs to polish up his game.

    Hopefully he worked on this after his alleged "loss" to Kessler.

    Abraham can fight, and he has very short and compact punches that he throws with great speed, but his actual boxing skills are limited.

    But I guess just depends on how you define pure boxing.

    That's not a knock on Abraham though because he works with what God gave him and uses the style best suited for him.
     
  11. Vysotsky

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    I;m really hoping that he learned his lesson and will let his hands go from the start from now on. Tme will tell.

    His best display of chin imo was against Miranda I. He took plenty of flush hard shots on the chin when it was already fractured. That is one of the most disturbing fights to watch that i can think of.
     
  12. RobertV77

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    I'm with you on this one.
     
  13. Exactabox

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    Could be the first time a fighter is decapitated in the ring. They should have paramedics in the first few rows ready and on call.
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I've held some controversial opinions of Arthur Abraham for long time. One of them is that I think it is a mistake to try to out box him over the course of 12 rounds. History says the ole "big up an early lead" philosphy doesn't work.

    In my opinion you beat Arthur Abraham by jumping on his ass right out of the gate. When that first bell rings --- mug the mother****er! Arthur can't fight going backwards. Use a long-stiff jab to put him on the back foot and keep him there. Slide over and throw a right hand to the head around the guard. Slide the other way and throw a left hook. Above all else keep that long-stiff jab right in his face. Arthur will back up into a corner where a tall, physically strong fighter can suck the life right out of him.

    And for the love of Christ Carl, keep your God Damned hands up!
     
  15. Jepster

    Jepster Almost Audleysome Full Member

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    Don't think he will boo :lol:

    I do think Froch will win on points in a fight that will be nail bitingly interesting in the last few rounds!