How accurate ws Muhamad Ali?

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  1. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What is his record as far as predicting rounds?
    The only round prediction I recall is against Joe Bugner; I think Ali said round 8 he'd KO Bugner and Bugner went the distance to lose.

    Seriously, does anyone know Alis career record as far as prediction accuracy?
     
  2. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    In his Cassius Clay days he did this a lot, and I think he was quite accurate. In the early days he was getting it right.

    I cant remember all of them.
    But Archie Moore will fall in four. He did.
    Henry Cooper went out in five rounds, just as Clay had said he would.
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He predicted some four/five before Liston which he got right. He also had Dunn right in 1976. He gave his gloves to a fan after a fight and the fan saw that he had written the round inside them.
     
  4. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what's his record? 5-3?
     
  5. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Google isn't helping much yet, here is his prediction verses Frazer, no round mentioned:

    "Ding! Ali comes out to meet Frazier
    But Frazier starts to retreat
    If Frazier goes back any further
    He'll wind up in a ringside seat
    Ali swings to the left
    Ali swings to the right
    Look at the kid
    Carry the fight
    Frazier keeps backing
    But there's not enough room
    It's a matter of time
    Then Ali lowers the boom
    Now Ali lands to the right
    What a beautiful swing!
    And deposits Frazier
    Clean out of the ring
    Frazier's still rising
    But the referee wears a frown
    For he can't start counting
    Till Frazier comes down
    Now Frazier disappears from view
    The crowd is getting frantic
    But our radar stations have picked him up
    He's somewhere over the Atlantic
    Who would have thought that
    When they came to the fight
    That they would have witnessed
    The launching of a coloured satellite!"
     
  6. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    He predicted he would stop Holmes in 8 which never happened
    And he predicted he would stop Norton in the third fight
     
  7. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That poem was for Liston. Ali said in a dressing room interview before tfotc that "Frazier falls in six"
     
  8. johnmaff36

    johnmaff36 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the crowd did not dream, when they put down their money
    That they would see a total eclipse of the sonny.

    He just substituted liston for frazier
     
  9. bman100

    bman100 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He did the same when he fought Berbick, changed the name.
     
  10. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I know he was wrong about the following fights:

    Jones
    Liston (could very well have made come it true had Liston not quit, though)
    Bonavena (had Bonavena hurt in the predicted round, but got hurt himself)
    Frazier
    Lyle (had Lyle against the ropes a large part of the predicted round, but not seriously hurt)
     
  11. groove

    groove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i think cassius clay had predicted 11 fights correct upto archie moore. clay had to go before the boxing commission cuz they thought he was fixing all his fights - they could hardly believe he could correctly predict them all like he had been doing in all his early fights. you can see footage of this in ali documentaries.
     
  12. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I know that Sonny Liston thwarted him by quiting before the predicted round in their first fight.
     
  13. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He predicted he'd get Mac Foster out in five, and really went after Mac from the outset to make his prediction stick. At the end of that round, he waved his arms and shook his head in disgust. Starting with round six, he reverted to his more characteristic stick and move.
     
  14. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was almost correct for the first Liston fight. Between Liston and Richard Dunn,12 years later,he did n't predict the round that much. He said round 8 for Ron Lyle,but had to wait three more rounds.
     
  15. Dynamite

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    after two years as a pro Ali fought 15 times 13KO's and he correctly called the demise of his opponents on 12 occasions.