Worlds Greatest Fighter Of The New Millennium

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  1. jdawg

    jdawg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :good no worries bud. Pacmans the man of the moment so i'm not surprised that he's getting the votes now but he's 2nd or 3rd in my book with B-hop completing the set. RJs a drug cheat kool plus he continues to tarnish his career by carrying on. Its the whole time period and as entertaining as he was he hasnt beaten the quality of fighters Floyd has plus back to back KO's when he stopped fighting ok fighters and losing to 2 of the contenders on this list means its a big. Oh yea and did I mention he's a cheat?....
     
  2. White Tiger

    White Tiger Boxing Addict banned

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    It dosent take away from all his superb performances.

    He only tested positive for one fight...........or am I mistaken ? :huh

    I can only remeber him testing positive for the Eric Harding fight.

    Jones win against John Ruiz alone - sets him on a new level to anyone else.

    Yes he is tarnished now.

    But early 2000's he was THE MAN.
     
  3. Flea Man

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    Jdawg, I was at work :good

    Your posts are good, they usually are. I don't necessarily agree that anything you've said about Floyd is false.

    It's just not as good as some of the other fighters on that list, in my opinion, which means little in the grand scheme of things :good
     
  4. tinorknitz

    tinorknitz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    -Like Floyd, you've avoided Pac like plague.
     
  5. jdawg

    jdawg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So was I man, believe me when you're pretty damn ill and away from work and boxing fix its a nightmare and you come out swinging like its Gatti-Ward.

    I'll leave it that then fella, nice 1 appreciate the comments :good

    White Tiger however can **** off with that RJ stuff, he was caught in the state of indiana in 2000 for anabolic steroids its a performance enhancer and frankly you dont get 3 strikes in a sport where that sort of advantage can kill people (note Mr Arum re:Tony Margarito) For the record yes I believe you are right about it being 1 fight, was it the Hall fight? The old 'it was nasal spray' to 'it was supplements' routine. Come on! Taking the drugs out he still dont match Floyd, Pac and Hopkins. When he was tearing it up it was against ok fighters when he made the jump he got sparked back to back and now is tarnishing his own legacy. Shame, i of course have no sympathy. Same goes for Toney
     
  6. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd say Floyd.
     
  7. jdawg

    jdawg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    See Dana White got his James Toney vote in there
     
  8. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    :lol:

    I know Toneys going to get battered but I'd love him to catch Coulture with a right hand on the way in.....
     
  9. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its Pac-man for me.

    I don't deny that Floyd looks the superior boxing technician, and had his acid test against Castillo at LW (which scores big points), but I score highly for competition faced and victory over said comp. That puts Pac over the top in my eyes.

    This poll, as confirmed by the votes so far, is really a straight shoot-out between Pac and Floyd. I like Pac though.

    Jdawg, I don't necesarily agree with you, but love reading your posts (always informative). And your right, Floyd does appear to be the most naturally gifted of the list. Just wished he had have tested himself as much as Pac.
     
  10. jdawg

    jdawg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hey an old Ray Mercer sparked out former UFC Heavyweight champ Tim Sylvia in under 10 seconds, no Sylvia's no Randy Couture but it CAN happen Gaz. I dont know whos into mma on here (so this might interest noone!) but the story of the fight might just be told in the first seconds- see if Toney comes out in a traditional boxing stance. MMA fighters dont do use it, they'd get their leg kicked into row Z or an olympic wrestler like Couture will take him down and beat him up and its done

    Appreciate that D-mac, I guess when you have 2 clear elite fighters in the same weight division (kinda...) its gonna divide opinion that can only be settled in the squared circle. Its talked about soooooo much but this fight is massively important to our sport
     
  11. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    IMHO the difference is that Sylvia is a striker and was dumb enough to think he could stand up with Mercer. Coulture is a wrestler and knows where the fight needs to be in order for him to win.
     
  12. jdawg

    jdawg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes spot on, Couture's a freak athlete not in a million years am I saying theres a comparison between him and Sylvia. Toney will have 1 shot, thats a given. Even if Couture shoots for the takedown as soon as Herb Dean (great ref) says lets fight theres at the very least 1 uppercut chance for Toney. Slim yes, just saying there is a chance and it'll have to be early.

    Bunceys right the chat keeps coming back to this fight. Or that David fella he gets the odd thread
     
  13. D-MAC

    D-MAC Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Unless Toney sparks Couture straight away he's on a hiding to nothing IMO. You can talk about Couture being 47 years old, but the fact of the matter is that he has won his last two in the UFC and four of his last six, which given the competitive nature of the UFC match-ups is quite a good run. Couture will probably GNP or submit Toney within the first two rounds.

    Submission really isn't Couture's game, but Toney is that green that its always a possibility.

    A points decision for Couture isn't out of the question either, whereby everyone saves a bit of face in the matter.

    Just my take on things.:good
     
  14. GazOC

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    I like Couture, he seems a decent bloke but I hope Toney wins just for that petty UFC vs. Boxing shite (thats fought under UFC, not boxing, rules!!) bull****.

    That said, Couture KO 1 is my pick for the fight.
     
  15. jdawg

    jdawg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yea just got in there on the quick win being imperative for Toney. D-macs right, ignore Coutures age. Now im not completely up with the facts but when Randy lost to Nogueira last year it was the 1st or 2nd time he'd been in a non championship fight for about 9 years!! He's a machine, an olympian and you want a guy not afraid to fight the best? Can do a lot worse than Couture.

    GnP win early for Couture most likely, yea decision is possible but that'd mean a dire fight with Couture clinching Toney into the best shape of his life