Does being a Roy Jones fan come with a free subscription to being PBF fan?

I'm already committed to a strong stance against emoticons, but the one I wish I could use the most is the "deal" one. It's so resolute. Has a signed contract in its hand or something.

 

Just give in and use it. You know you want to. :deal

 

:deal

 

I am not speculating. I am also not taking constant personal jabs at you.

Sure they do, but Roy and FMJ are also damn near 40 year old men. Black guys their age would be laughed at by many in this "hip hop" community you speak of. Bernard Hopkins shares many of the same fans and his boxing style is completely different, but he is also known as being...

You keep trying to simplify things you know little to nothing about. When I try to explain it you spark off. Also, inordinately large jeans are pretty out of style now and have been for almost a decade. Skinny jeans are in. What is next they carry large radios too? It is thinly veiled racism that you are trying to dress up with intellect. Just because you put syrup on ish don't make it pancakes.

 

Here's a bit of an ESPN Article

Mayweather, to that point, had been marketed as the good-looking, clean cut All-American boy with otherworldly skills. Mayweather’s plan was to create a strategy that would make him attractive to the hip-hop crowd.

At that time, it was viewed as a risky strategy. Demographic studies at that time showed the boxing audience skewing heavily Hispanic with the largest fan base in the Southwest.

“We had a meticulous, carefully thought out plan,” Ellerbe said. “The urban market was untapped as a pay-per-view market and Floyd believed that before you can do anything else, you have to captivate your target audience. We look at boxing from a global standpoint, but before we could implement our strategies globally, we had to have the target audience, the young, African-American crowd, on lock.

“Young African-Americans in the inner city want to look to their own people for their stars, their role models, for their heroes. It’s no different than young Mexicans, who for years grew up wanting to be the next Julio Cesar Chavez. Floyd is a genius and doesn’t get the credit he deserves for understanding how to promote and market these fights. He was years ahead of the curve and understood long before anyone else what he had to do to build and solidify his target audience.”

 

As the saying goes in Tennis, "Too good".

 

Yeah man you can't look hard drinking anything with a strawberry on the rim.

 

It's plainly obvious what Floyd and Jones' target audiences are. I don't believe I have to live in Brooklyn to know that.

 

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Filthy Rich Records is what it is.

 

I understand what you are TRYING to say. I am telling you that whatever the marketing scheme the reason that RJJ and FMJ share a fan base is because of their boxing style and ability to stand up to criticism. This BS crap from old Ellerbe about some magical marketing plan is smoke to blow up a reporter's butt.

What exactly has FMJ marketed? Hatred? All he had to do was win enough to get on TV. After he won enough to say he was the best the hate would begin. When the hate began and he STOOD UP FOR HIMSELF the Black community would rally around him. This has been the case for ALL AA champions.

Now you couple that with somehow drawing a connection to RJJ's fan base (a full decade younger) and you see what I mean. The commonality is talent, the African American boxing style, and/or a strong personality. No more. No less. The same guys that like RJJ and FMJ most likely also like Tyson, Whittaker, Hopkins, Judah, etc... It is the persona.

 

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The problem is that you see African Americans as one monolithic group. RJJ and FMJ are a decade apart. Their fan bases grew up listening to completely different types of music.

Still you want to pull out the "hip hop community" blanket to cover all Blacks? It only sounds sane because you have never been in Brooklyn or had contact with any large Black population.

I understand why I "irritate" you. :yep

 

:yep Are you black? Are you a fan of Floyd?

 

Dude you know the answers to your questions.

I just find it funny when a bunch of people with skewed up ideas on a subject jump in a huddle and reinforce their skewed up world views.

 

No, I don't.

Are you black? Are you a fan of Floyd? Are you a fan of Roy?

Just out of curiosity, what type of music do you listen too?

 

Well speculate away.

I listen to all types of music. I don't listen to what people call hip hop now. I think it is stereotypical trash meant for consumption by White kids who enjoy tales of inner city action movies. You aren't going triple platinum and selling out $100 a seat concerts catering to the Black community.

I am also a fan of Donaire, Caballero, James Toney, Hector Camacho, etc... It is the style and/or personality. Nothing to do with "music".