Does being a Roy Jones fan come with a free subscription to being PBF fan?

And....owns a record label which promotes? You guessed it, Hip Hop. Is constantly seen with 50 cent, flashing his bling and his money. His own adviser acknowledged that one of his fighters core target audiences is the "hip hop crowd". I really don't know what else to say about it.

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Listen to the track 'How You Want It'. Instant classic.

How about his beef with Rick Ross. How the hell are Rick Ross and Floyd affiliated?

 

Let's talk about Marvin Hagler and why people concentrate more on him being past it then Leonard not having fought in THREE YEARS, and moving up to MIDDLEWEIGHT? It's along the same lines of what we're talking about here.

 

That is because I doubt you have much experience the world or in the Black community either. That is why you say words like "hip hop" and feel the term is all inclusive when there are schisms within that umbrella that have been demarcated sometimes by VIOLENCE. However people like you and him feel perfectly comfortable grouping them. There are also generational gaps that he and you happily gloss over too.

Who are the majority of people? You are not speaking of a real majority. You are speaking of a fantasy in your and his head. This is my point. You feel qualified to quantify "the majority" of people which is complete crap. The majority of people don't know who the hell Duran, Mayweather, or RJJ are!

You, like him, have an arrogant Western attitude and feel that YOUR life experience is THE life experience and everything else is alternative. You are wrong. There are whole swaths of areas where everything you believe is crap. This is more the rule than the exception. The fact that we are on the Internet discussing boxing puts us in an elite 1-20% of the Earths population.

 

You claim I'm dealing in speculation. What facts are you dealing with, Bald Head Slick?

You still didn't answer my questions from before. Are you black? Are you a Floyd fan?

 

You just don't know what the hell you are talking about. You remind me of people from a small town consuming some product from far away. A person from the same place as the product understands the nuance and that the product, as it is being sold to you, is a complete joke. But being the small town guy you are you just feel enlightened due to a superficial ad campaign.

Just remember man who owns the media, this website, and the sports mags you read. They are all skewed to support that worldview. :good

 

No, it's not. You ****.

If I'm not mistaken, Leonard had several unofficial matches without headgear with serious sparring partners. He went into that fight as prepared as he could possibly be. There was no small amount of calculation on his part as to WHEN he chose to fight Hagler, who had recently been through back to back wars with Tommy Hearns and John Mugabi, and had been seen to have slipped at least as early as his fight with Roldan. Of course it's well documented that Leonard did as much as he could to win the fight at the negotiating table.

Leonard had 40 total fights. Hagler had 67. Tell me who you think was more shop worn at that point.

I give credit to Leonard for fighting a perfect tactical fight against Hagler. He did exactly what he needed to do to win. He is a great boxer, there's no denying it. The timing was right for him, just as the timing was wrong for Hagler. They never would have met earlier, the circumstances would not have made any sense.

 

You are. Wildly distorted speculation that has unfortunately led you to correct conclusions and therefore reinforced your reasoning.

I have traveled the world and lived in all types of communities. I have watched hip hop be born, die, and be resurrected in many forms.

You already know the answers to both of those questions.

 

Leonard was pretty sharp at beating guys at the negotiating table.

It had a lot to do with the "No mas" win.

 

Here's my theory. The Hip Hop crowd, as we understand it today, is primarily younger people who buy Hip Hop records. It's that simple. For all of the reasons I've reiterated, countless times, fans of hip hop are easily introduced to Mayweather through his affiliations and how he projects himself in the media eye. They watch Boxing, they watch him, they cheer him on. We don't pick who we support randomly. There's always something, even on a subconscious level.

You seem to be making this infinitely more complex than it actually is.

 

I knew I would get a response.

The notion that Hagler was in a worse way than Leonard because he had been more active is preposterous. Defies all logic.

The timing was right for Leonard. Who hadn't fought a competitive fight in three years, had well-documented eye troubles, and was moving up to Hagler's natural weight class. Boggles the mind, Boggle.

 

Leonard is a winner, through and through. From the negotiating table to the ring. He is a smart mofo. Honestly though, as much as I respect him as a boxer, I don't really like the guy. He strikes me as a phony. I can't stand that ****. He's friends with the Kardashian's for **** sake. As much as I would love to smash Kim's ass, they are the ****ing enemy.

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The difference is astronomical.

 

How? Some fighters are never the same after one devastating battle. Why does it not make sense that a guy would be worse for the wear after 66 fights? Have you watched Hagler vs Bennie Briscoe? Or his fight against Alan Minter? Does he seem like the same fighter that fought SRL? I don't think so.

 

Nobody on this thread has claimed Hagler was in peak form. But he was certainly in a better way than Leonard, who hadn't fought in three years. Read that back. Why the hell do you think Hagler was an overwhelming favorite? Leonard wasn't anywhere near his prime, and Hagler was fighting at his natural weight class...Leonard wasn't. :huh

 

Hmm, so what is different about a Floyd fan posting about other things boxing-related than an Andre Berto, Kelly Pavlik, or other such fan doing the same thing? It's possible to like a fighter, post often about them, but also post about other things. You make it sound as if posting about other things is a cover or a front for something other than what it simply is, which is just posting about boxing.

You're trying to connect too many dots to make a conspiracy theory and all you've made is scribbles.