List the fighters that Pacquiao wouldv'e fought...If he wasn't a "TOP-RANK" Fighter.

Vitor Belfort · Aug 21, 2010

Injin Chi---IVY league AKA finito wouldn't be talking today about how pac ducked his hero.

Juan diaz
Mosley
Berto
Bradley
Alexander
Maidana
Joan guzman
Humberto soto--revenge for his lil bro
Mayweather

winterchill · Aug 21, 2010

Totomabs said: ↑

1. Freddie Norwood - his fight with JMM at featherweight was in 1999 and pac just lost to singsurat at flyweight around that time. and he retired from boxing not long after...

2. Robbie Peden - pacman was still fighting at super bantamweight at the time of peden's fight with jmm. when pacman stepped into the featherweight division peden jumped to super feather. besides, after the jmm loss, peden had become insignificant other than his lucky win over a showboating campbell.

3. Derrick Gainer - he fought jmm around the same time pac fought barrera. since he lost to jmm, the logical move for pac's camp was to fight jmm and unify the belts at feather. he also lost to john and became insignificant..

4. Chris John - This guy would not want to fight outside his country around the time pac was at feather. jmm was the only guy who would probably turn down a 600k offer for a pac rematch and in turn fight an opponent on his homestead and get robbed. it doesn't get any more stupid than that. and when john finally did come up in weight and fight in the u.s., pac was already plying his trade at the welters.

5. Joel Casamayor - Seriously, who would want to fight an aging and shot 38-39 year old?

i know pbf did.:yep
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:deal /THREAD

StickingNMoving · Aug 21, 2010

Pac should leave Arum now before he taints his legacy fighting Margarito. Arum is a snake and he wouldn't let Pac near Sergio Martinez or Paul Williams. Pac should just say **** it and fight any of those 2.

Scar · Aug 21, 2010

darryl1914 said: ↑

This is why I have grown to appreciate Juan Manuel Marquez. I look at his resume and what I see is the "Variety" in different "kinds" of fighters, styles, athleticism, speed and skill-level of his opponents...Freddie Norwood, Robbie Peden, Derrick Gainer, Chris John, Joel Casssamayor to Floyd Mayweather. Juan Manuel Marquez has been in the ring with Athletic, Skillful fighters with speed, and had NO problem facing fighters where he didn't have the speed advantage.

So I wonder, would you see "this" kind of Variety in Pacquiao's resume if he wasn't under the "Top-Rank" umbrella. Now don't get me wrong (which I sure most of you will)...the trio of JMM, Morales and Barerra are SOLID. But 7 fights against these 3 when there were so many Top Quality fighters with Skill and Speed fighting at or around 126lbs-140lbs from 2004 - 2008.
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Being a TOP RANK fighter got him the great resume he has. TOP RANK had everyone worth mentioning really and top class fighters. If he wasn't with TOP RANK he would still win but it surely wouldn't get him as much credit as he gets now. TOP RANK was able to get him DLH, Hatton, Marquez, Morales, Hatton, Cotto, Clottey, Margarito(soon) and many others I could mention. I know not all are in TOP RANK's stable but they were still opponents they brought in for him. Are there better he could have fought?, I don't think so. Only best/biggest name difficult to get in the ring at the moment is Mayweather and that, I hope, will be possible soon.

Scar · Aug 21, 2010

Totomabs said: ↑

1. Freddie Norwood - his fight with JMM at featherweight was in 1999 and pac just lost to singsurat at flyweight around that time. and he retired from boxing not long after...

2. Robbie Peden - pacman was still fighting at super bantamweight at the time of peden's fight with jmm. when pacman stepped into the featherweight division peden jumped to super feather. besides, after the jmm loss, peden had become insignificant other than his lucky win over a showboating campbell.

3. Derrick Gainer - he fought jmm around the same time pac fought barrera. since he lost to jmm, the logical move for pac's camp was to fight jmm and unify the belts at feather. he also lost to john and became insignificant..

4. Chris John - This guy would not want to fight outside his country around the time pac was at feather. jmm was the only guy who would probably turn down a 600k offer for a pac rematch and in turn fight an opponent on his homestead and get robbed. it doesn't get any more stupid than that. and when john finally did come up in weight and fight in the u.s., pac was already plying his trade at the welters.

5. Joel Casamayor - Seriously, who would want to fight an aging and shot 38-39 year old?

i know pbf did.:yep
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Mayweather wanted to fight Casamayor right after he beat Corrales and I don't think Casamayor was 39 back then. Did Mayweather try to negotiate a fight with Casamayor recently?, try to answer that.

PH|LLA · Aug 21, 2010

one thing you gotta admit is that when Pac was with Murad Muhammed he was on a murderer's row like noone else in recent times.

cainne · Aug 21, 2010

Totomabs said: ↑

1. Freddie Norwood - his fight with JMM at featherweight was in 1999 and pac just lost to singsurat at flyweight around that time. and he retired from boxing not long after...

2. Robbie Peden - pacman was still fighting at super bantamweight at the time of peden's fight with jmm. when pacman stepped into the featherweight division peden jumped to super feather. besides, after the jmm loss, peden had become insignificant other than his lucky win over a showboating campbell.

3. Derrick Gainer - he fought jmm around the same time pac fought barrera. since he lost to jmm, the logical move for pac's camp was to fight jmm and unify the belts at feather. he also lost to john and became insignificant..

4. Chris John - This guy would not want to fight outside his country around the time pac was at feather. jmm was the only guy who would probably turn down a 600k offer for a pac rematch and in turn fight an opponent on his homestead and get robbed. it doesn't get any more stupid than that. and when john finally did come up in weight and fight in the u.s., pac was already plying his trade at the welters.

5. Joel Casamayor - Seriously, who would want to fight an aging and shot 38-39 year old?

i know pbf did.:yep
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there you go derail..(ermm..i mean darryl)

:good

darryl1914 · Aug 21, 2010

:rofl....Laughing My Ass off at these Clowns!!!!

1) First, I begin my thread with stating how much I have grown to respect JMM...and because of this appreciation for a Mexican fighter...THIS SOMEHOW MAKES ME RACIST...WOW!!!

2) I praised JMM for taking on fighters that are more Athletic, more skilled, and Faster than he is. But what these "Clowns" see, is that I am saying Pacquiao should have fought and would have lost rofl) to Peden, Norwood, Gainer and Casamayor...WOW!!!

3) And upon asking why Pacquiao faced Morales, Barerra and Marquez a total of 7 times...These "Clowns" think I am saying that Pacquiao should have NEVER fought them...WOW!!!

You know...so many posters get criticized for their inept and limited Boxing Knowledge (and rightfully so). But not possessing and/or lacking the ability to "COMPLETELY COMPREHEND" what you read...IS JUST PLAIN INEXCUSABLE!!!!
And then to fire back with INSULTS based on your lack of comprehension is JUST PLAIN SAD!!!

Skilletscuz · Aug 21, 2010

darryl1914 said: ↑

This is why I have grown to appreciate Juan Manuel Marquez. I look at his resume and what I see is the "Variety" in different "kinds" of fighters, styles, athleticism, speed and skill-level of his opponents...Freddie Norwood, Robbie Peden, Derrick Gainer, Chris John, Joel Casssamayor to Floyd Mayweather. Juan Manuel Marquez has been in the ring with Athletic, Skillful fighters with speed, and had NO problem facing fighters where he didn't have the speed advantage.

So I wonder, would you see "this" kind of Variety in Pacquiao's resume if he wasn't under the "Top-Rank" umbrella. Now don't get me wrong (which I sure most of you will)...the trio of JMM, Morales and Barerra are SOLID. But 7 fights against these 3 when there were so many Top Quality fighters with Skill and Speed fighting at or around 126lbs-140lbs from 2004 - 2008.
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i doubt he'd fight the fighters you'd approve of, regardless...
the only way for him to fight the ones you personally designate is to be HIS promoter. Imagine if he wasnt with Top Rank. He could be stuck with lousier fights...

invalid thread

PetethePrince · Aug 21, 2010

What I want to know is why doesn't or hasn't the OP ever made a post, let alone thread that is the least bit negative or critical of Floyd Mayweather? If he claims objectivity, enlightenment, and true balanced insight than you must wonder why he doesn't. And don't try to deflect by saying how whenever you make a thread about Pac people have to change the subject. It has nothing to do with Pac... it's just that your act is tiresome.

davebenoit · Aug 21, 2010

darryl1914 said: ↑

:rofl....Laughing My Ass off at these Clowns!!!!

1) First, I begin my thread with stating how much I have grown to respect JMM...and because of this appreciation for a Mexican fighter...THIS SOMEHOW MAKES ME RACIST...WOW!!!

2) I praised JMM for taking on fighters that are more Athletic, more skilled, and Faster than he is. But what these "Clowns" see, is that I am saying Pacquiao should have fought and would have lost rofl) to Peden, Norwood, Gainer and Casamayor...WOW!!!

3) And upon asking why Pacquiao faced Morales, Barerra and Marquez a total of 7 times...These "Clowns" think I am saying that Pacquiao should have NEVER fought them...WOW!!!

You know...so many posters get criticized for their inept and limited Boxing Knowledge (and rightfully so). But not possessing and/or lacking the ability to "COMPLETELY COMPREHEND" what you read...IS JUST PLAIN INEXCUSABLE!!!!
And then to fire back with INSULTS based on your lack of comprehension is JUST PLAIN SAD!!!
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Fighting those guys you mentioned really depends if Pac was in their weight division at that time and if these boxers were ranked to deserve money fight w/ Pac. Otherwise, they can only wish.

Gesta · Aug 21, 2010

darryl1914 said: ↑

This is why I have grown to appreciate Juan Manuel Marquez. I look at his resume and what I see is the "Variety" in different "kinds" of fighters, styles, athleticism, speed and skill-level of his opponents...Freddie Norwood, Robbie Peden, Derrick Gainer, Chris John, Joel Casssamayor to Floyd Mayweather. Juan Manuel Marquez has been in the ring with Athletic, Skillful fighters with speed, and had NO problem facing fighters where he didn't have the speed advantage.

So I wonder, would you see "this" kind of Variety in Pacquiao's resume if he wasn't under the "Top-Rank" umbrella. Now don't get me wrong (which I sure most of you will)...the trio of JMM, Morales and Barerra are SOLID. But 7 fights against these 3 when there were so many Top Quality fighters with Skill and Speed fighting at or around 126lbs-140lbs from 2004 - 2008.
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What happened to your cap's lock button?

Totomabs · Aug 21, 2010

Scar said: ↑

Mayweather wanted to fight Casamayor right after he beat Corrales and I don't think Casamayor was 39 back then. Did Mayweather try to negotiate a fight with Casamayor recently?, try to answer that.
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i wasn't referring to mayweather fighting casa.

but mayweather recently fought mosley right?

darryl1914 · Aug 22, 2010

Scar said: ↑

Mayweather wanted to fight Casamayor right after he beat Corrales and I don't think Casamayor was 39 back then. Did Mayweather try to negotiate a fight with Casamayor recently?, try to answer that.
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Hey Scar, STOP THAT!!!

FACTS will only confuse them!!!

El Intocable · Aug 22, 2010

Scar said: ↑

Mayweather wanted to fight Casamayor right after he beat Corrales and I don't think Casamayor was 39 back then. Did Mayweather try to negotiate a fight with Casamayor recently?, try to answer that.
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Show me where fraud ever tried to fight casa after Corrales,after he fought Diego he wanted to fight Alejandro Gonzalez in his first fight at 135 but HBO didnt accept Gonzalez as his opponent and he ended up fighting Castillo,he never tried to fight Casa.****ing morons make **** up and try to pass it as facts.

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